[Lnc-business] Fwd: Re: Colorado joint fundraising efforts.

[Daniel Fishman]

>From the FEC:

LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF GEORGIA
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF ILLINOIS
LIBERTARIAN ASSOCIATION OF MASSACHUSETTS
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF ALABAMA
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF ARKANSAS
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF UTAH
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF COLORADO
LIBERTARIAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE, INC.
LIBERTARIAN NATIONAL CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE INC
WAKE COUNTY LIBERTARIAN PARTY
SOUTH CAROLINA LIBERTARIAN PARTY SCLP
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF INDIANA
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF NORTH CAROLINA
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF NEVADA
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF MICHIGAN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, INC.
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF VIRGINIA
DC LIBERTARIAN PARTY
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF OHIO
LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF FLORIDA
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Daniel Fishman
Executive Director
The Libertarian Party
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:46 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman <
joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:

> Do you have handy the list of states that are FEC filers and those that
> are not?
>
> JBH
>
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>
> On 2019-10-16 04:04, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business wrote:
> > ok, password is still in place. I will not remove the password from the
> > page without the LNC's consent. I will wait till explicit consent comes
> > through this thread. Colorado has resources poised to increase
> > membership.
> > And it should be pointed out that every state can increase membership
> > to be
> > counted towards delegate count right now using the traditional
> > lp.org/join
> > link.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Daniel Fishman
> > Executive Director
> > The Libertarian Party
> > Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:49 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> EVH is also right - this is part of my larger complaint of the LNC
> >> being
> >> kept in the dark.  I was utterly surprised to see this come through
> >> APRC
> >> and the first time an LNC member hears of something like this should
> >> not be
> >> in APRC or when it goes public.  We cannot possibly keep our duties if
> >> we
> >> are kept in the dark.
> >>
> >> And don't anyone assume well at least the other officers know.  No
> >> they
> >> don't.
> >>
> >> *In Liberty,*
> >>
> >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >> anyone
> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >> faux
> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:44 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Forwarded to list.
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> >> >
> >> > -------- Original Message --------
> >> >
> >> >                 SUBJECT:
> >> >                 Re: Colorado joint fundraising efforts.
> >> >
> >> >                 DATE:
> >> >                 2019-10-16 01:11
> >> >
> >> >                 FROM:
> >> >                 Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
> >> >
> >> >                 TO:
> >> >                 John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> >> >
> >> >                 CC:
> >> >                 Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>, Dan Fishman
> >> > <dan.fishman at lphq.org>, LNC Gsuite Migration <lnctest at lphq.org>, Jess
> >> > Mears <jess at lphq.org>
> >> >
> >> > John,
> >> >
> >> > I'm asking questions about how this has been handled.  Which is what
> any
> >> > LNC can, and should, be doing.  I'd appreciate you not characterizing
> a
> >> > legitimate concern as "kvetch".
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> >> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >> >
> >> > On 2019-10-16 01:04, John Phillips wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Valid objection if there is a policy - and the one about timing and
> >> > informing other affiliates is as well.
> >> > >
> >> > > However, I did know that they were looking for an answer, and knew
> what
> >> > the issue was, and informed my region of both the FEC issues, and
> another
> >> > potential work around as soon as the possibility was mentioned. I
> would
> >> > assume that was how CO knew to work on it.
> >> > >
> >> > > I also know that if someone brings a potential solution to an issue
> we
> >> > have together I would try to work out the bugs with them before I
> started
> >> > advertising it. Same as I do with any new product or service I offer
> in
> >> > business. Same as we do/did with the CRM actually.
> >> > >
> >> > > We did ask them for a closer look EVH, that is how they came up with
> >> the
> >> > work around.  I'm not going to kvetch about someone coming up with a
> >> > solution to a problem we asked them to.
> >> > >
> >> > > John Phillips
> >> > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > > Cell 217-412-5973
> >> > >
> >> > > On Oct 15, 2019 11:52 PM, Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Policy Manual section 3.03.1, titled "Affiliate Relationships"
> requires
> >> > that, "Special agreements with states require the approval of the
> LNC."
> >> > >
> >> > > Part of the reason for that is to have even-handed treatment of all
> >> > affiliates.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Alicia
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:40 PM Alicia Mattson <
> alicia.mattson at lp.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Also, does that mean that the LNC will be eating the full amount of
> the
> >> > credit card processing fees for the state's portion of the proceeds?
> I
> >> > would object to us underwriting an affiliate's fundraising drive in
> that
> >> > manner.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Alicia
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:37 PM Alicia Mattson <
> alicia.mattson at lp.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > There are some political ramifications to rolling this out for only
> one
> >> > state with only a few days left before the delegate allocation
> deadline.
> >> > Granted CO is the state that is arranging the phone effort to boost
> their
> >> > memberships, but for the LNC to be offering help to one state at this
> >> > last-minute-before-the-deadline is gonna look a bit unfair to other
> state
> >> > affiliates competing for the same delegate allocations.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Alicia
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:33 PM Daniel Fishman <
> dan.fishman at lphq.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Please visit
> https://www.lp.org/colorado-national-combined-membership/
> >> > >
> >> > > Password is (Not shown on forwarded)
> >> > >
> >> > > History behind this.  A few months ago Jess Mears held a webinar
> with
> >> > state and county membership directors and invited me to address
> questions
> >> > about the possibility of a joint membership form, which had come up
> in a
> >> > previous conversation.
> >> > >
> >> > > I had prior to the meeting consulted with Robert Kraus about the FEC
> >> > implications and we agreed it could be done with states that are FEC
> >> > filers.  I discussed this in the Membership Directors meeting, and
> >> > described essentially the webpage listed above.  There was some
> interest
> >> > among the participants.
> >> > >
> >> > > Fast forward to last week and Colorado approached me with a plan.
> They
> >> > are hiring a telemarketer to call all the registered Libertarians in
> >> > Colorado and are going to get them to become members at national as
> well
> >> as
> >> > make a donation to LPCO.
> >> > >
> >> > > The page has cleared APRC and is explicitly approved by the LPCO
> chair.
> >> > It has been suggested I notify the LNC of this plan and ask if there
> are
> >> > strenuous objections to making this publicly available.  LPCO has a
> >> > communication going out tomorrow, and they would like to advertise
> this
> >> > page.
> >> > >
> >> > > To anticipate other questions, we can make a page like this
> available
> >> to
> >> > any state that is a FEC filers.  I would need a formal request from
> the
> >> > state chair to proceed.
> >> > >
> >> > > Your reply is appreciated.
> >> > >
> >> > > Dan
> >> > >
> >> > > Dan Fishman, Executive Director,  Libertarian Party
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> >
> >>
>