[Lnc-business] Director of Development

Mon Oct 28 03:19:28 EDT 2019

Once again, your commentary on my medical condition is unwelcome.  Please
stop.  Forward whatever you wish to whomever you wish.  After our
conversation, I was advised to seek legal representation if you initiated
it again.  I would be more than glad to have our correspondence reviewed by
Mr. Hall.  Your conduct was outrageous and violated the policy manual on
maligning a disability.  If you wish to continue this conversation, take it
to the proper channels.  You are dangerously out of line.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:12 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:

> You initiated conversation by sending me a private message.  I replied
> with a link to information. (which you rejected)   I also explained about
> my decades of experience with those you're on the Autism Spectrum
> Disorder.   My reply to you wasn't inflammatory.
>
> You replied to me with false accusations, threats and insults.  I then
> notified our Chair and advised that I was thinking of filing a formal
> complaint.  That I wanted our legal counsel to be aware.  I've showed
> no-one our communication.  But, I'd be happy to.
>
> You accuse others of your own behavior.  Thank you for illustrating that
> behavior.
>
> Regarding Paige Sexton, if doesn't matter if she can speak for herself.
> I'm speaking out, as I think it's necessary.
>
>
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>
>
> On 2019-10-28 01:32, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> EVH - Ms Sexton can speak for herself.  You and I already had a private
> conversation about my medical condition and I told you in no uncertain
> terms to never mention it again due to your inflammatory comments.
>
> I'm not interested in your policing.  You have been told over the years
> that you are beyond rude so take your own advice.
>
> I welcome a discussion with Ms Sexton. I'm not holding my breath for you
> to discuss the actual issues rather than a tangent.  I will not respond
> further to your faux outrage.
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:23 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Well, Caryn Ann, you should be interested in being civil to your fellow
>> LNC members.  You're the person who has as a signature line:
>>
>> "...If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
>> other social  faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *"
>>
>> Yet, we're under no obligation to contact you privately, if you're
>> publicly being rude.
>>
>> Your lack of interest in the opinions of others is noted though.
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 01:14, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>> Not interested in your policing.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:08 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> (uncalled is supposed to be 'uncalled for')
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>> Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>
>>> On 2019-10-28 01:04, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> > IF you just asked a question, there wouldn't have been a concern.
>>> > But, you went way beyond that.
>>> >
>>> > You wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "Ms. Sexton, you represent a region.  Have you discussed this seeming
>>> > approval over the heads of the LNC with Nr. Nekhaila and your region?"
>>> >
>>> > -->  [Ok, so far.  Although, you don't need to ask Paige Sexton about
>>> > her region, all she did was say, "Sounds good. I'm excited to see what
>>> > she brings to the table."  AFTER asking the same type of question
>>> > you'd asked.  She wasn't out of line at all.]
>>> >
>>> > You wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "I doubt it."
>>> >
>>> > --> [Uncalled.]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > You wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "The LNC is privy to concerns brought up by a group of LNC members
>>> > outside
>>> > this list for resolution.  Combine that with this, and silence or
>>> > approval
>>> > speaks volume."
>>> >
>>> > --> [Has nothing to do with Paige's comment.  She made an innocuous
>>> > comment.]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > You wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "I've not said a word outside us.  I've not said a word on social
>>> > media.
>>> > Clean your house."
>>> >
>>> > -->  [Rude, unrelated, and uncalled harassing of Paige Sexton.]
>>> >
>>> > __________________________________________________________
>>> >
>>> > Caryn Ann, you don't get to be rude to fellow LNC members on this
>>> > list, and expect us to take our concerns to private with you.  IF
>>> > you're doing it public, we can voice our concerns publicly.  Your
>>> > reply to Paige Sexton was rude.  If multiple people are telling you
>>> > this, perhaps you might consider listening.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---
>>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>>> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>> > Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>> > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>> > http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>> >
>>> > On 2019-10-27 22:17, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> >> Asking a question is not rude.  The holy hall monitor routine is old.
>>> >> We
>>> >> are adults who don't need safe spaces.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 8:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Our feelings were clear.  I guess we can't now rely on good faith
>>> and
>>> >>> have
>>> >>> to codify everything?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What a joke.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> STRONG OBJECTION was made.  The fact that this was done without
>>> >>> pre-warning and I had to ASK about the lack of Libertarian bona
>>> fides
>>> >>> is
>>> >>> disturbing.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The Libertarian swamp stinketh.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:59 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I'd like to see that as well.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> But no I was referring to the the concern letters which pre-date
>>> >>>> this and
>>> >>>> already show Weld's fingers in our pie.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Which met with silence from the rest of the LNC.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Welcome to the new party.  The same as the old parties.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:44 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via
>>> Lnc-business
>>> >>>> <
>>> >>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> My last "Agree" should be "No comment," as I mistakenly thought it
>>> >>>>> referred to the offer letter.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> JBH
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ------------
>>> >>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>> >>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>> >>>>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> >>>>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 2019-10-27 21:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> >>>>> > On 2019-10-27 21:36, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >> It was not a formal directive.  I will get the video.  Our
>>> feelings
>>> >>>>> >> were
>>> >>>>> >> clear and were now just trampled underfoot.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Disagree.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >> And a nationwide search results in a Massachusetts insider with
>>> not
>>> >>>>> so
>>> >>>>> >> much
>>> >>>>> >> experience, not a Libertarian, and my gut tells me is connected
>>> to
>>> >>>>> >> Weld.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Agree.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >> This stinks of a huge Weld set up to be back with more phones
>>> >>>>> promises
>>> >>>>> >> of
>>> >>>>> >> big donations.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Disagree.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >> Considering this development and the lack of objection by any
>>> LNC
>>> >>>>> >> member to
>>> >>>>> >> make the prior letter public, it is time to make it public.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Agree.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>> >>>> Syndrome
>>> >>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> >>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>> >>>> anyone
>>> >>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>> social
>>> >>>> faux
>>> >>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>> >>> Syndrome
>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>> >>> anyone
>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>> >>> faux
>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>
>>> >> *In Liberty,*
>>> >>
>>> >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>> >> anyone
>>> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>> >> faux
>>> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>>
>> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>