[Lnc-business] Director of Development

Mon Oct 28 04:13:37 EDT 2019

Take it to the proper channels.  Thank you.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
wrote:

> I thought you were going to stop replying to me?  : )
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>
> On 2019-10-28 03:53, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> Take it to the proper channels.  Thank you.
>
> *In Liberty,*
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:19 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Once again, your commentary on my medical condition is unwelcome.  Please
>> stop.  Forward whatever you wish to whomever you wish.  After our
>> conversation, I was advised to seek legal representation if you initiated
>> it again.  I would be more than glad to have our correspondence reviewed by
>> Mr. Hall.  Your conduct was outrageous and violated the policy manual on
>> maligning a disability.  If you wish to continue this conversation, take it
>> to the proper channels.  You are dangerously out of line.
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:12 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <
>> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You initiated conversation by sending me a private message.  I replied
>>> with a link to information. (which you rejected)   I also explained about
>>> my decades of experience with those you're on the Autism Spectrum
>>> Disorder.   My reply to you wasn't inflammatory.
>>>
>>> You replied to me with false accusations, threats and insults.  I then
>>> notified our Chair and advised that I was thinking of filing a formal
>>> complaint.  That I wanted our legal counsel to be aware.  I've showed
>>> no-one our communication.  But, I'd be happy to.
>>>
>>> You accuse others of your own behavior.  Thank you for illustrating that
>>> behavior.
>>>
>>> Regarding Paige Sexton, if doesn't matter if she can speak for herself.
>>> I'm speaking out, as I think it's necessary.
>>>
>>>
>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2019-10-28 01:32, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>
>>> EVH - Ms Sexton can speak for herself.  You and I already had a private
>>> conversation about my medical condition and I told you in no uncertain
>>> terms to never mention it again due to your inflammatory comments.
>>>
>>> I'm not interested in your policing.  You have been told over the years
>>> that you are beyond rude so take your own advice.
>>>
>>> I welcome a discussion with Ms Sexton. I'm not holding my breath for you
>>> to discuss the actual issues rather than a tangent.  I will not respond
>>> further to your faux outrage.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:23 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
>>> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, Caryn Ann, you should be interested in being civil to your fellow
>>>> LNC members.  You're the person who has as a signature line:
>>>>
>>>> "...If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
>>>> other social  faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know.
>>>> *"
>>>>
>>>> Yet, we're under no obligation to contact you privately, if you're
>>>> publicly being rude.
>>>>
>>>> Your lack of interest in the opinions of others is noted though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-10-28 01:14, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not interested in your policing.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:08 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (uncalled is supposed to be 'uncalled for')
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>> Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2019-10-28 01:04, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>> > IF you just asked a question, there wouldn't have been a concern.
>>>>> > But, you went way beyond that.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Ms. Sexton, you represent a region.  Have you discussed this seeming
>>>>> > approval over the heads of the LNC with Nr. Nekhaila and your
>>>>> region?"
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -->  [Ok, so far.  Although, you don't need to ask Paige Sexton about
>>>>> > her region, all she did was say, "Sounds good. I'm excited to see
>>>>> what
>>>>> > she brings to the table."  AFTER asking the same type of question
>>>>> > you'd asked.  She wasn't out of line at all.]
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "I doubt it."
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --> [Uncalled.]
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "The LNC is privy to concerns brought up by a group of LNC members
>>>>> > outside
>>>>> > this list for resolution.  Combine that with this, and silence or
>>>>> > approval
>>>>> > speaks volume."
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --> [Has nothing to do with Paige's comment.  She made an innocuous
>>>>> > comment.]
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "I've not said a word outside us.  I've not said a word on social
>>>>> > media.
>>>>> > Clean your house."
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -->  [Rude, unrelated, and uncalled harassing of Paige Sexton.]
>>>>> >
>>>>> > __________________________________________________________
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Caryn Ann, you don't get to be rude to fellow LNC members on this
>>>>> > list, and expect us to take our concerns to private with you.  IF
>>>>> > you're doing it public, we can voice our concerns publicly.  Your
>>>>> > reply to Paige Sexton was rude.  If multiple people are telling you
>>>>> > this, perhaps you might consider listening.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ---
>>>>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>> > Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>>> > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>>> > http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 2019-10-27 22:17, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>> >> Asking a question is not rude.  The holy hall monitor routine is
>>>>> old.
>>>>> >> We
>>>>> >> are adults who don't need safe spaces.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 8:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> >> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Our feelings were clear.  I guess we can't now rely on good faith
>>>>> and
>>>>> >>> have
>>>>> >>> to codify everything?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> What a joke.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> STRONG OBJECTION was made.  The fact that this was done without
>>>>> >>> pre-warning and I had to ASK about the lack of Libertarian bona
>>>>> fides
>>>>> >>> is
>>>>> >>> disturbing.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> The Libertarian swamp stinketh.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:59 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> >>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> I'd like to see that as well.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> But no I was referring to the the concern letters which pre-date
>>>>> >>>> this and
>>>>> >>>> already show Weld's fingers in our pie.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Which met with silence from the rest of the LNC.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Welcome to the new party.  The same as the old parties.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:44 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via
>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>> >>>> <
>>>>> >>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> My last "Agree" should be "No comment," as I mistakenly thought
>>>>> it
>>>>> >>>>> referred to the offer letter.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> JBH
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> ------------
>>>>> >>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>> >>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>>> >>>>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> >>>>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On 2019-10-27 21:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> > On 2019-10-27 21:36, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> It was not a formal directive.  I will get the video.  Our
>>>>> feelings
>>>>> >>>>> >> were
>>>>> >>>>> >> clear and were now just trampled underfoot.
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > Disagree.
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> And a nationwide search results in a Massachusetts insider
>>>>> with not
>>>>> >>>>> so
>>>>> >>>>> >> much
>>>>> >>>>> >> experience, not a Libertarian, and my gut tells me is
>>>>> connected to
>>>>> >>>>> >> Weld.
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > Agree.
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> This stinks of a huge Weld set up to be back with more phones
>>>>> >>>>> promises
>>>>> >>>>> >> of
>>>>> >>>>> >> big donations.
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > Disagree.
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> >> Considering this development and the lack of objection by any
>>>>> LNC
>>>>> >>>>> >> member to
>>>>> >>>>> >> make the prior letter public, it is time to make it public.
>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>> > Agree.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>>> >>>> Syndrome
>>>>> >>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>>> >>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>>> >>>> anyone
>>>>> >>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>>> social
>>>>> >>>> faux
>>>>> >>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>>> >>> Syndrome
>>>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>>> >>> anyone
>>>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>>> social
>>>>> >>> faux
>>>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>>> Syndrome
>>>>> >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>>> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>>> >> anyone
>>>>> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>>> social
>>>>> >> faux
>>>>> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>
>>>
>>> --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *