[Lnc-business] Director of Development

Elizabeth Van Horn elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Mon Oct 28 03:58:58 EDT 2019


I thought you were going to stop replying to me?  : )

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Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY) 

On 2019-10-28 03:53, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

> Take it to the proper channels.  Thank you.
> 
> IN LIBERTY, 
> 
> __ 
> _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _ 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:19 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote: 
> Once again, your commentary on my medical condition is unwelcome.  Please stop.  Forward whatever you wish to whomever you wish.  After our conversation, I was advised to seek legal representation if you initiated it again.  I would be more than glad to have our correspondence reviewed by Mr. Hall.  Your conduct was outrageous and violated the policy manual on maligning a disability.  If you wish to continue this conversation, take it to the proper channels.  You are dangerously out of line.
> 
> IN LIBERTY, 
> 
> __ 
> _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _ 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:12 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote: 
> 
> You initiated conversation by sending me a private message.  I replied with a link to information. (which you rejected)   I also explained about my decades of experience with those you're on the Autism Spectrum Disorder.   My reply to you wasn't inflammatory.  
> 
> You replied to me with false accusations, threats and insults.  I then notified our Chair and advised that I was thinking of filing a formal complaint.  That I wanted our legal counsel to be aware.  I've showed no-one our communication.  But, I'd be happy to.  
> 
> You accuse others of your own behavior.  Thank you for illustrating that behavior. 
> 
> Regarding Paige Sexton, if doesn't matter if she can speak for herself.  I'm speaking out, as I think it's necessary.  
> 
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> 
> On 2019-10-28 01:32, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote: 
> 
> EVH - Ms Sexton can speak for herself.  You and I already had a private conversation about my medical condition and I told you in no uncertain terms to never mention it again due to your inflammatory comments.   
> 
> I'm not interested in your policing.  You have been told over the years that you are beyond rude so take your own advice.   
> 
> I welcome a discussion with Ms Sexton. I'm not holding my breath for you to discuss the actual issues rather than a tangent.  I will not respond further to your faux outrage. 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:23 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote: 
> 
> Well, Caryn Ann, you should be interested in being civil to your fellow LNC members.  You're the person who has as a signature line:
> 
> "...If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social  faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *"
> 
> Yet, we're under no obligation to contact you privately, if you're publicly being rude.   
> 
> Your lack of interest in the opinions of others is noted though.     
> 
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> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> 
> On 2019-10-28 01:14, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote: 
> 
> Not interested in your policing. 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:08 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: (uncalled is supposed to be 'uncalled for')
> 
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> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 
> On 2019-10-28 01:04, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
>> IF you just asked a question, there wouldn't have been a concern.
>> But, you went way beyond that.
>> 
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> "Ms. Sexton, you represent a region.  Have you discussed this seeming
>> approval over the heads of the LNC with Nr. Nekhaila and your region?"
>> 
>> -->  [Ok, so far.  Although, you don't need to ask Paige Sexton about
>> her region, all she did was say, "Sounds good. I'm excited to see what
>> she brings to the table."  AFTER asking the same type of question
>> you'd asked.  She wasn't out of line at all.]
>> 
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> "I doubt it."
>> 
>> --> [Uncalled.]
>> 
>> 
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> "The LNC is privy to concerns brought up by a group of LNC members 
>> outside
>> this list for resolution.  Combine that with this, and silence or 
>> approval
>> speaks volume."
>> 
>> --> [Has nothing to do with Paige's comment.  She made an innocuous 
>> comment.]
>> 
>> 
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> "I've not said a word outside us.  I've not said a word on social 
>> media.
>> Clean your house."
>> 
>> -->  [Rude, unrelated, and uncalled harassing of Paige Sexton.]
>> 
>> __________________________________________________________
>> 
>> Caryn Ann, you don't get to be rude to fellow LNC members on this
>> list, and expect us to take our concerns to private with you.  IF
>> you're doing it public, we can voice our concerns publicly.  Your
>> reply to Paige Sexton was rude.  If multiple people are telling you
>> this, perhaps you might consider listening.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>> Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> 
>> On 2019-10-27 22:17, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> Asking a question is not rude.  The holy hall monitor routine is old. 
>>> We
>>> are adults who don't need safe spaces.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 8:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos 
>>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Our feelings were clear.  I guess we can't now rely on good faith and 
>>>> have
>>>> to codify everything?
>>>> 
>>>> What a joke.
>>>> 
>>>> STRONG OBJECTION was made.  The fact that this was done without
>>>> pre-warning and I had to ASK about the lack of Libertarian bona fides 
>>>> is
>>>> disturbing.
>>>> 
>>>> The Libertarian swamp stinketh.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:59 PM Caryn Ann Harlos 
>>>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to see that as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But no I was referring to the the concern letters which pre-date 
>>>>> this and
>>>>> already show Weld's fingers in our pie.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which met with silence from the rest of the LNC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Welcome to the new party.  The same as the old parties.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:44 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business 
>>>>> <
>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> My last "Agree" should be "No comment," as I mistakenly thought it
>>>>>> referred to the offer letter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>>>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [1]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2019-10-27 21:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2019-10-27 21:36, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was not a formal directive.  I will get the video.  Our feelings
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> clear and were now just trampled underfoot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disagree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And a nationwide search results in a Massachusetts insider with not
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> experience, not a Libertarian, and my gut tells me is connected to
>>>>>>>> Weld.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This stinks of a huge Weld set up to be back with more phones
>>>>>> promises
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> big donations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disagree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Considering this development and the lack of objection by any LNC
>>>>>>>> member to
>>>>>>>> make the prior letter public, it is time to make it public.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agree.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's 
>>>>> Syndrome
>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If 
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social 
>>>>> faux
>>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> 
>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's 
>>>> Syndrome
>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If 
>>>> anyone
>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social 
>>>> faux
>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>> 
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> 
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If 
>>> anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social 
>>> faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * -- 
> 
> IN LIBERTY, 
> 
> __ 
> _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
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IN LIBERTY, 

__ 
_ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _ 

  

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