[Lnc-business] Director of Development
Elizabeth Van Horn
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Mon Oct 28 03:58:58 EDT 2019
I thought you were going to stop replying to me? : )
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Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2019-10-28 03:53, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> Take it to the proper channels. Thank you.
>
> IN LIBERTY,
>
> __
> _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:19 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> Once again, your commentary on my medical condition is unwelcome. Please stop. Forward whatever you wish to whomever you wish. After our conversation, I was advised to seek legal representation if you initiated it again. I would be more than glad to have our correspondence reviewed by Mr. Hall. Your conduct was outrageous and violated the policy manual on maligning a disability. If you wish to continue this conversation, take it to the proper channels. You are dangerously out of line.
>
> IN LIBERTY,
>
> __
> _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:12 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
> You initiated conversation by sending me a private message. I replied with a link to information. (which you rejected) I also explained about my decades of experience with those you're on the Autism Spectrum Disorder. My reply to you wasn't inflammatory.
>
> You replied to me with false accusations, threats and insults. I then notified our Chair and advised that I was thinking of filing a formal complaint. That I wanted our legal counsel to be aware. I've showed no-one our communication. But, I'd be happy to.
>
> You accuse others of your own behavior. Thank you for illustrating that behavior.
>
> Regarding Paige Sexton, if doesn't matter if she can speak for herself. I'm speaking out, as I think it's necessary.
>
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>
> On 2019-10-28 01:32, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> EVH - Ms Sexton can speak for herself. You and I already had a private conversation about my medical condition and I told you in no uncertain terms to never mention it again due to your inflammatory comments.
>
> I'm not interested in your policing. You have been told over the years that you are beyond rude so take your own advice.
>
> I welcome a discussion with Ms Sexton. I'm not holding my breath for you to discuss the actual issues rather than a tangent. I will not respond further to your faux outrage.
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:23 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
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> Well, Caryn Ann, you should be interested in being civil to your fellow LNC members. You're the person who has as a signature line:
>
> "...If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *"
>
> Yet, we're under no obligation to contact you privately, if you're publicly being rude.
>
> Your lack of interest in the opinions of others is noted though.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>
> On 2019-10-28 01:14, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> Not interested in your policing.
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:08 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: (uncalled is supposed to be 'uncalled for')
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> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
> On 2019-10-28 01:04, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
>> IF you just asked a question, there wouldn't have been a concern.
>> But, you went way beyond that.
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>> "Ms. Sexton, you represent a region. Have you discussed this seeming
>> approval over the heads of the LNC with Nr. Nekhaila and your region?"
>>
>> --> [Ok, so far. Although, you don't need to ask Paige Sexton about
>> her region, all she did was say, "Sounds good. I'm excited to see what
>> she brings to the table." AFTER asking the same type of question
>> you'd asked. She wasn't out of line at all.]
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>> "I doubt it."
>>
>> --> [Uncalled.]
>>
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>> "The LNC is privy to concerns brought up by a group of LNC members
>> outside
>> this list for resolution. Combine that with this, and silence or
>> approval
>> speaks volume."
>>
>> --> [Has nothing to do with Paige's comment. She made an innocuous
>> comment.]
>>
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>> "I've not said a word outside us. I've not said a word on social
>> media.
>> Clean your house."
>>
>> --> [Rude, unrelated, and uncalled harassing of Paige Sexton.]
>>
>> __________________________________________________________
>>
>> Caryn Ann, you don't get to be rude to fellow LNC members on this
>> list, and expect us to take our concerns to private with you. IF
>> you're doing it public, we can voice our concerns publicly. Your
>> reply to Paige Sexton was rude. If multiple people are telling you
>> this, perhaps you might consider listening.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>> Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>
>> On 2019-10-27 22:17, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> Asking a question is not rude. The holy hall monitor routine is old.
>>> We
>>> are adults who don't need safe spaces.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 8:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Our feelings were clear. I guess we can't now rely on good faith and
>>>> have
>>>> to codify everything?
>>>>
>>>> What a joke.
>>>>
>>>> STRONG OBJECTION was made. The fact that this was done without
>>>> pre-warning and I had to ASK about the lack of Libertarian bona fides
>>>> is
>>>> disturbing.
>>>>
>>>> The Libertarian swamp stinketh.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:59 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to see that as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> But no I was referring to the the concern letters which pre-date
>>>>> this and
>>>>> already show Weld's fingers in our pie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which met with silence from the rest of the LNC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to the new party. The same as the old parties.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:44 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business
>>>>> <
>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My last "Agree" should be "No comment," as I mistakenly thought it
>>>>>> referred to the offer letter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>>>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2019-10-27 21:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2019-10-27 21:36, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was not a formal directive. I will get the video. Our feelings
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> clear and were now just trampled underfoot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disagree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And a nationwide search results in a Massachusetts insider with not
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> experience, not a Libertarian, and my gut tells me is connected to
>>>>>>>> Weld.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This stinks of a huge Weld set up to be back with more phones
>>>>>> promises
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> big donations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disagree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Considering this development and the lack of objection by any LNC
>>>>>>>> member to
>>>>>>>> make the prior letter public, it is time to make it public.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agree.
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>
>>>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>>> Syndrome
>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>>>> faux
>>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>
>>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>> Syndrome
>>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
>>>> anyone
>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>>> faux
>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>
>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If
>>> anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>> faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * --
>
> IN LIBERTY,
>
> __
> _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
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IN LIBERTY,
__
_ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
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