[Lnc-business] Director of Development

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Take it to the proper channels.  Thank you.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *



On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:19 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> Once again, your commentary on my medical condition is unwelcome.  Please
> stop.  Forward whatever you wish to whomever you wish.  After our
> conversation, I was advised to seek legal representation if you initiated
> it again.  I would be more than glad to have our correspondence reviewed by
> Mr. Hall.  Your conduct was outrageous and violated the policy manual on
> maligning a disability.  If you wish to continue this conversation, take it
> to the proper channels.  You are dangerously out of line.
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:12 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <
> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> You initiated conversation by sending me a private message.  I replied
>> with a link to information. (which you rejected)   I also explained about
>> my decades of experience with those you're on the Autism Spectrum
>> Disorder.   My reply to you wasn't inflammatory.
>>
>> You replied to me with false accusations, threats and insults.  I then
>> notified our Chair and advised that I was thinking of filing a formal
>> complaint.  That I wanted our legal counsel to be aware.  I've showed
>> no-one our communication.  But, I'd be happy to.
>>
>> You accuse others of your own behavior.  Thank you for illustrating that
>> behavior.
>>
>> Regarding Paige Sexton, if doesn't matter if she can speak for herself.
>> I'm speaking out, as I think it's necessary.
>>
>>
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 01:32, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>> EVH - Ms Sexton can speak for herself.  You and I already had a private
>> conversation about my medical condition and I told you in no uncertain
>> terms to never mention it again due to your inflammatory comments.
>>
>> I'm not interested in your policing.  You have been told over the years
>> that you are beyond rude so take your own advice.
>>
>> I welcome a discussion with Ms Sexton. I'm not holding my breath for you
>> to discuss the actual issues rather than a tangent.  I will not respond
>> further to your faux outrage.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:23 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
>> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, Caryn Ann, you should be interested in being civil to your fellow
>>> LNC members.  You're the person who has as a signature line:
>>>
>>> "...If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
>>> other social  faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *"
>>>
>>> Yet, we're under no obligation to contact you privately, if you're
>>> publicly being rude.
>>>
>>> Your lack of interest in the opinions of others is noted though.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2019-10-28 01:14, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>
>>> Not interested in your policing.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:08 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> (uncalled is supposed to be 'uncalled for')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>> Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-10-28 01:04, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> > IF you just asked a question, there wouldn't have been a concern.
>>>> > But, you went way beyond that.
>>>> >
>>>> > You wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > "Ms. Sexton, you represent a region.  Have you discussed this seeming
>>>> > approval over the heads of the LNC with Nr. Nekhaila and your region?"
>>>> >
>>>> > -->  [Ok, so far.  Although, you don't need to ask Paige Sexton about
>>>> > her region, all she did was say, "Sounds good. I'm excited to see what
>>>> > she brings to the table."  AFTER asking the same type of question
>>>> > you'd asked.  She wasn't out of line at all.]
>>>> >
>>>> > You wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > "I doubt it."
>>>> >
>>>> > --> [Uncalled.]
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > You wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > "The LNC is privy to concerns brought up by a group of LNC members
>>>> > outside
>>>> > this list for resolution.  Combine that with this, and silence or
>>>> > approval
>>>> > speaks volume."
>>>> >
>>>> > --> [Has nothing to do with Paige's comment.  She made an innocuous
>>>> > comment.]
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > You wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > "I've not said a word outside us.  I've not said a word on social
>>>> > media.
>>>> > Clean your house."
>>>> >
>>>> > -->  [Rude, unrelated, and uncalled harassing of Paige Sexton.]
>>>> >
>>>> > __________________________________________________________
>>>> >
>>>> > Caryn Ann, you don't get to be rude to fellow LNC members on this
>>>> > list, and expect us to take our concerns to private with you.  IF
>>>> > you're doing it public, we can voice our concerns publicly.  Your
>>>> > reply to Paige Sexton was rude.  If multiple people are telling you
>>>> > this, perhaps you might consider listening.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ---
>>>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>> > Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>> > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>> > http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2019-10-27 22:17, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> >> Asking a question is not rude.  The holy hall monitor routine is
>>>> old.
>>>> >> We
>>>> >> are adults who don't need safe spaces.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 8:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> >> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Our feelings were clear.  I guess we can't now rely on good faith
>>>> and
>>>> >>> have
>>>> >>> to codify everything?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> What a joke.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> STRONG OBJECTION was made.  The fact that this was done without
>>>> >>> pre-warning and I had to ASK about the lack of Libertarian bona
>>>> fides
>>>> >>> is
>>>> >>> disturbing.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The Libertarian swamp stinketh.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:59 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> >>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I'd like to see that as well.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> But no I was referring to the the concern letters which pre-date
>>>> >>>> this and
>>>> >>>> already show Weld's fingers in our pie.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Which met with silence from the rest of the LNC.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Welcome to the new party.  The same as the old parties.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:44 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via
>>>> Lnc-business
>>>> >>>> <
>>>> >>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> My last "Agree" should be "No comment," as I mistakenly thought it
>>>> >>>>> referred to the offer letter.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> JBH
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> ------------
>>>> >>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>> >>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>> >>>>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>> >>>>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On 2019-10-27 21:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> >>>>> > On 2019-10-27 21:36, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >> It was not a formal directive.  I will get the video.  Our
>>>> feelings
>>>> >>>>> >> were
>>>> >>>>> >> clear and were now just trampled underfoot.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > Disagree.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >> And a nationwide search results in a Massachusetts insider
>>>> with not
>>>> >>>>> so
>>>> >>>>> >> much
>>>> >>>>> >> experience, not a Libertarian, and my gut tells me is
>>>> connected to
>>>> >>>>> >> Weld.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > Agree.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >> This stinks of a huge Weld set up to be back with more phones
>>>> >>>>> promises
>>>> >>>>> >> of
>>>> >>>>> >> big donations.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > Disagree.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >> Considering this development and the lack of objection by any
>>>> LNC
>>>> >>>>> >> member to
>>>> >>>>> >> make the prior letter public, it is time to make it public.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > Agree.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>> >>>> Syndrome
>>>> >>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> >>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>> >>>> anyone
>>>> >>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>> social
>>>> >>>> faux
>>>> >>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>> >>> Syndrome
>>>> >>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>> >>> anyone
>>>> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>> social
>>>> >>> faux
>>>> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *In Liberty,*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>> Syndrome
>>>> >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>> >> anyone
>>>> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>>> >> faux
>>>> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>>
>>