[Lnc-business] Director of Development
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Tue Oct 29 04:53:07 EDT 2019
I have reviewed the language of the resolution which directs the hiring of
a development director and 1 to 2 development staffers or contractors. It
is clear to me that the intent was that the DD be an employee not a
contractor. And while I am not opposed to a contractor, I am opposed to
using that designation to skirt the requirement for EPCC approval.
Further, Mr. Fishman acknowledged the clear spirit of the policy manual was
to include this position because the operative term was DIRECTOR, not
employment. And I would argue that a contracting contract IS an employment
contract under that provision. The provision makes absolutely NO sense if
it is not. And by providing the contract to the EPCC to honor the spirit
of that provision, an approval is required. It was not given.
All of this weaseling around is unworthy of the Party of Principle.
==Caryn Ann, I think your questions are good ones and ones that we should
know the answers to.===
Thank you Mr. Longstreth, and for the edification of the reading
membership, we TRIED to get these answers privately. We were ignored. I
personally am not fine with the idea that the LNC as a body does not care
if there was an offer of employment to Mr. Sarwark by Mr. Weld during the
same period of time that Lauren was allowed to leave without any attempts
to keep her and Mr. Sarwark is publicly endorsing Mr. Weld. And a $75/hour
contract sprung on us, argued for by Mr. Fishman, who was hired by Mr.
Sarwark, who then introduces Mr. Weld, also effectively endorsing him! And
then, an MA Republican insider is being given the keys to our donor list
and I am supposed to believe there is connection to Weld? That is
impossible. I would have expected the reasonable answer to be that it is
not her fault that she happened to live in MA where Mr. Weld is influential
and thus it is unavoidable to not have some connection. There is far too
much that stinks here.
And as far the assurances that the new hire is a libertarian, well, within
the past year there has been public support for red flag laws and interest
in very pro military industrial complex organizations.
Did anyone bother to vet twitter or Linked-In to at least deal with these
issues head on? What kind of due diligence was done?
I am not okay with any of this.
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:02 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:
> I want my post restored or reposted. I do not consent to being censored
> because someone else inadvertently posted private information.
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:23 PM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> To respond to Representative Longstreth, I am aware of one post by Mr.
>> Fishman as well as one by myself and one by Secretary Harlos that because
>> of posting order contained "reflections" of Mr. Fishmans post that ALL
>> could have simply been edited to remove "sensitive" detail instead of total
>> deletion. It is my belief that there were indeed others removed but I cant
>> swear positively to that
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019 11:07 PM, Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would like an explanation of what has been removed and why. I suspect
>> it may have to do with content and legal areas but until that is confirmed,
>> I also object to censoring the public record.
>>
>> Richard Longstreth
>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> 931.538.9300
>>
>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 20:58 Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> I want to go on record here that I am most definitely not okay with the
>> direction delete posts vs editing out information that should not have been
>> sent to the list to begin with being given.
>>
>> I object to that being done
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019 10:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If I ever fail in my duty point it out. I failed in my duty to Mr.
>> Hauptmann. We have potential corruption and if it’s rude to demand that
>> everyone take that seriously, then I will be rude AF. I’m in region 1 and
>> the immediate past representative. I feel some duty to them and always
>> will. And I question every representative if they have proactively
>> consulted their region. And I will always do that. And I honestly don’t
>> care if anyone thinks that’s outside my lane. I will always strive to word
>> it diplomatically but it seems the offense is to the right to even ask the
>> question, not the wording. Too bad. I’ll always question every regional
>> representative. Most certainly my own.
>>
>> Here is what I want.
>>
>> Unwind this. Start over cleanly.
>>
>> Demand answers to previous questions.
>>
>> Is Mr. Fishman paid for CPAC planning?
>>
>> Why wasn’t his CPAC involvement disclosed?
>>
>> Why did Mr Fishman give a different public story than he said to Ms Adams
>> about his “introduction” of Weld?
>>
>> Was Mr Sarwark offered a job by Weld, even if informally?
>>
>> And I’d like each LNC member to state their view (silence is a view) on
>> Mr Sarwark’s open endorsement as party chair of Weld.
>>
>> That’s a start.
>>
>> And I want the truth about Lauren, but I doubt we will get that.
>>
>> I am asking the
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:17 PM Richard Longstreth <
>> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> As stated in my previous email, I am fine if we disagree with how I see
>> things. Regardless, my question still is, what are the next steps? I have
>> proposed a direction to go that would improve the party. What do you want
>> to see done? Are you demanding someone's resignation? A censure? Please let
>> me know. As to your wording Ina rude manner, you were rude. I'll get over
>> it.
>>
>> This is not something anyone in the region has approached me about (this
>> or other items we have discussed) and I always welcome input. My phone,
>> email, and Facebook are all very public. I am happy to hear all thoughts
>> and, in the absence of input, I try to be the best representative I can and
>> work toward the betterment of our party. Complaining about the actions is
>> one thing; trying to take a bad situation and turn it into something which
>> helps the party is something else. Further, you have absolutely no right to
>> imply that I am failing in representing my region and I would appreciate it
>> if you stayed in your lane. I do not publicly allege that you are failing
>> in some secretarial roles and when you do err, I recognize that mistakes
>> happen. I believe I am owed the same courtesy.
>>
>> I ask again what action or result would you like this body to work
>> toward? I've already shared my thoughts but am open to other viable ideas
>> if you have them.
>>
>> Richard Longstreth
>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> 931.538.9300
>>
>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 20:03 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> And I don’t consent to my posts being deleted. If some info needs to be
>> scrubbed, repost the rest.
>>
>> This girl is done carrying water.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:00 PM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I am not inclined to just let this lay. Too many issues. I suggest that
>> we
>> > indeed start over and this time, do things properly and above board.
>> >
>> > I find it ironic that tonight I'll be the one to say Carry that water,
>> yet
>> > that is what Im saying
>> >
>> > On Oct 28, 2019 9:49 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Mr Longstreth. Enough is enough. I have no more benefit of the doubt
>> to
>> > give. This isn’t a matter of being 100%, it’s a matter of not even
>> being
>> > a
>> > Party member.
>> >
>> > Our objections were clear.
>> >
>> > The intent of the policy manual is clear.
>> >
>> > The fact that we are intentionally blind-sided is clear.
>> >
>> > The fact she is not qualified - to me - is clear and to the numerous
>> angry
>> > member phone calls I’ve fielded is clear.
>> >
>> > The fact that smoke is being blown up my behind about a MA politico
>> having
>> > no ties to Weld (that’s impossible) is clear.
>> >
>> > The fact that this is just another in a long series of completely
>> improper
>> > entanglements never disclosed to the LNC is clear.
>> >
>> > Did we give authority to hire a co tractor that would require no
>> approval?
>> >
>> > WE DO NOT PLANT LIBERTY SEEDS WITH OUR DONOR LIST. This is not
>> > evangelism. I can’t believe I even have to say that.
>> >
>> > I’m second guessing remaining a donor at this point, and that’s
>> pathetic.
>> >
>> > There’s been too much “oh well what’s done is done.”
>> >
>> > You know what’s done? My tolerance for this.
>> >
>> > And we’ve never received an answer to whether Mr Fishman was paid to
>> plan
>> > for COAC. Why even an unpaid was never disclosed? Either a disclosure
>> or
>> > denial that Mr Sarwark was offered - even if wink wink informally - a
>> job
>> > with Mr Weld prior to trying to get a paid position with the party
>> funded
>> > by unnamed donors.
>> >
>> > The cumulative case stinks and I’m done sweeping it under the rug.
>> >
>> > And - I’m trying to word this in a non-rude manner - I don’t think
>> Region
>> > 1
>> > shares your sentiments. Perhaps they do. I’ve been out of the loop. I
>> > am
>> > pretty sure that LPCO is not. I am medium sure LPWA is not - the two
>> > largest constituencies.
>> >
>> > Dan and Nick are not victims here. And our questioning is not harassing
>> > them. It is doing our duty and it’s about time we all started doing it.
>> >
>> > We were not told the truth about Lauren. Never forget that.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:02 PM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Too many threads out there. I'm going to break this down as simply as
>> I
>> > can
>> > > and put it here and here only. I have feelings on all of this but if I
>> > take
>> > > a step back, here is how I am seeing things at this point. It is ok if
>> > you
>> > > disagree but let's figure out the next steps.
>> > >
>> > > 1) A contract was offered and was sent to the EPCC even though that
>> part
>> > of
>> > > the PM deals with 'Directors'. The role in question was changed to a
>> > > contracted director (read contractor) and so there is definitely some
>> > grey
>> > > as to how all of this should have been handled. I also note the lack
>> of
>> > > clear definitions. If the contract was required to be submitted, it
>> did
>> > not
>> > > receive approval but if it was for a contractor, no approval needed.
>> > News
>> > > flash: our policy manual needs some work to fix and clarify these
>> things
>> > > for the future. Mr. O'Donnell had several suggestions at a previous
>> > meeting
>> > > and it may be worth revisiting them.
>> > >
>> > > 2) Our new DD is not 100% in line with our philosophies. I agree that
>> > this
>> > > is a concern, however, I would also note that very rarely does someone
>> > > score a 10-10 on the Nolan quiz and we still welcome them into our
>> folds
>> > > and plant more liberty seeds along the way. The selected candidate
>> meets
>> > > all of the criteria that we voted on and approved, albeit, the feeling
>> > of
>> > > the room was clear, but it was not in our explicit direction. Do I
>> wish
>> > she
>> > > was more libertarian, absolutely - I look forward to getting to know
>> her
>> > > more and find out where she disagrees with us and seeing if we can
>> > change
>> > > that. Until that time and given where we are at in the process, offer,
>> > etc
>> > > now, should we not utilize her skills and experience and trust in our
>> > ED's
>> > > selection and Chair's approval? Our only other option is to revoke the
>> > > contract, pay her whatever severance fee and start over. I'm not over
>> > the
>> > > moon on that one.
>> > >
>> > > 3) So, where exactly do we go from here? Do we harass Dan until he
>> says
>> > he
>> > > has done wrong? Resigns? Do we go after Oliver and Nick for approving?
>> > Are
>> > > we just raising flags to bring public attention and if so, what's the
>> > > actual point unless you are campaigning (which is not the purpose of
>> > this
>> > > email list)? Do we demand the contract be cancelled and start the
>> search
>> > > over? All of these are options I suppose. Or, as a suggestion, we
>> could
>> > > recognize this opportunity to move our organization forward and ensure
>> > that
>> > > future LNCs have a clearer procedure and policy manual? First, I
>> suggest
>> > we
>> > > let up and give the new DD a chance. Second, I propose we redirect
>> this
>> > > conversation to policy manual fixes and workshopping a hiring policy.
>> > Off
>> > > the top of my head, we need to clarify in a real way what the LNC
>> should
>> > be
>> > > involved with at the very least - all hiring at an arbitrary line or,
>> my
>> > > suggestion, should we restrict the LNC to only be involved in
>> employment
>> > > matters concerning the ED and evaluating their performance?
>> > >
>> > > 4) I will say that thus far our discussion has not been largely
>> > productive.
>> > > What do we, as the governing body of the world's largest Libertarian
>> > Party
>> > > intend to do in an effort to ease the future growth and expansion of
>> our
>> > > Party? How can we use this to set an example for affiliate parties? I
>> am
>> > > happy to take part in any discussion that focuses on where we go.
>> What's
>> > > been done is done and as far as I can tell, nobody actually did
>> anything
>> > > wrong outside of optics and a very large grey area in our policy
>> manual
>> > was
>> > > discovered. Let's figure out how to fix it.
>> > >
>> > > Richard Longstreth
>> > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> > > Libertarian National Committee
>> > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> > > 931.538.9300
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my Mobile Device
>> > >
>> > --
>> >
>> > *In Liberty,*
>> >
>> > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> faux
>> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>>
>>
>>
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