[Lnc-business] Director of Development

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

And I see this is not on the public list.  Unless we are discussing
confidential names, this needs to be public.  I am reposting my comments to
the public list.

*In Liberty,*

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On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 2:53 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> I have reviewed the language of the resolution which directs the hiring of
> a development director and 1 to 2 development staffers or contractors.  It
> is clear to me that the intent was that the DD be an employee not a
> contractor.  And while I am not opposed to a contractor, I am opposed to
> using that designation to skirt the requirement for EPCC approval.
> Further, Mr. Fishman acknowledged the clear spirit of the policy manual was
> to include this position because the operative term was DIRECTOR, not
> employment.  And I would argue that a contracting contract IS an employment
> contract under that provision.  The provision makes absolutely NO sense if
> it is not.  And by providing the contract to the EPCC to honor the spirit
> of that provision, an approval is required.  It was not given.
>
> All of this weaseling around is unworthy of the Party of Principle.
>
> ==Caryn Ann, I think your questions are good ones and ones that we should
> know the answers to.===
>
> Thank you Mr. Longstreth, and for the edification of the reading
> membership, we TRIED to get these answers privately.  We were ignored.  I
> personally am not fine with the idea that the LNC as a body does not care
> if there was an offer of employment to Mr. Sarwark by Mr. Weld during the
> same period of time that Lauren was allowed to leave without any attempts
> to keep her and Mr. Sarwark is publicly endorsing Mr. Weld.  And a $75/hour
> contract sprung on us, argued for by Mr. Fishman, who was hired by Mr.
> Sarwark, who then introduces Mr. Weld, also effectively endorsing him!  And
> then, an MA Republican insider is being given the keys to our donor list
> and I am supposed to believe there is connection to Weld?  That is
> impossible.  I would have expected the reasonable answer to be that it is
> not her fault that she happened to live in MA where Mr. Weld is influential
> and thus it is unavoidable to not have some connection.   There is far too
> much that stinks here.
>
> And as far the assurances that the new hire is a libertarian, well, within
> the past year there has been public support for red flag laws and interest
> in very pro military industrial complex organizations.
>
> Did anyone bother to vet twitter or Linked-In to at least deal with these
> issues head on?  What kind of due diligence was done?
>
> I am not okay with any of this.
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:02 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I want my post restored or reposted.  I do not consent to being censored
>> because someone else inadvertently posted private information.
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:23 PM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> To respond to Representative Longstreth, I am aware of one post by Mr.
>>> Fishman as well as one by myself and one by Secretary Harlos that because
>>> of posting order contained "reflections" of Mr. Fishmans post that ALL
>>> could have simply been edited to remove "sensitive" detail instead of total
>>> deletion. It is my belief that there were indeed others removed but I cant
>>> swear positively to that
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2019 11:07 PM, Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like an explanation of what has been removed and why. I suspect
>>> it may have to do with content and legal areas but until that is confirmed,
>>> I also object to censoring the public record.
>>>
>>> Richard Longstreth
>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> 931.538.9300
>>>
>>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 20:58 Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to go on record here that I am most definitely not okay with the
>>> direction delete posts vs editing out information that should not have been
>>> sent to the list to begin with being given.
>>>
>>> I object to that being done
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2019 10:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If I ever fail in my duty point it out.  I failed in my duty to Mr.
>>> Hauptmann.  We have potential corruption and if it’s rude to demand that
>>> everyone take that seriously, then I will be rude AF.  I’m in region 1 and
>>> the immediate past representative.  I feel some duty to them and always
>>> will.  And I question every representative if they have proactively
>>> consulted their region.  And I will always do that.  And I honestly don’t
>>> care if anyone thinks that’s outside my lane.  I will always strive to word
>>> it diplomatically but it seems the offense is to the right to even ask the
>>> question, not the wording.  Too bad.  I’ll always question every regional
>>> representative.  Most certainly my own.
>>>
>>> Here is what I want.
>>>
>>> Unwind this.  Start over cleanly.
>>>
>>> Demand answers to previous questions.
>>>
>>> Is Mr. Fishman paid for CPAC planning?
>>>
>>> Why wasn’t his CPAC involvement disclosed?
>>>
>>> Why did Mr Fishman give a different public story than he said to Ms
>>> Adams about his “introduction” of Weld?
>>>
>>> Was Mr Sarwark offered a job by Weld, even if informally?
>>>
>>> And I’d like each LNC member to state their view (silence is a view) on
>>> Mr Sarwark’s open endorsement as party chair of Weld.
>>>
>>> That’s a start.
>>>
>>> And I want the truth about Lauren, but I doubt we will get that.
>>>
>>> I am asking the
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:17 PM Richard Longstreth <
>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> As stated in my previous email, I am fine if we disagree with how I see
>>> things. Regardless, my question still is, what are the next steps? I have
>>> proposed a direction to go that would improve the party. What do you want
>>> to see done? Are you demanding someone's resignation? A censure? Please let
>>> me know. As to your wording Ina rude manner, you were rude. I'll get over
>>> it.
>>>
>>> This is not something anyone in the region has approached me about (this
>>> or other items we have discussed) and I always welcome input. My phone,
>>> email, and Facebook are all very public. I am happy to hear all thoughts
>>> and, in the absence of input, I try to be the best representative I can and
>>> work toward the betterment of our party. Complaining about the actions is
>>> one thing; trying to take a bad situation and turn it into something which
>>> helps the party is something else. Further, you have absolutely no right to
>>> imply that I am failing in representing my region and I would appreciate it
>>> if you stayed in your lane. I do not publicly allege that you are failing
>>> in some secretarial roles and when you do err, I recognize that mistakes
>>> happen. I believe I am owed the same courtesy.
>>>
>>> I ask again what action or result would you like this body to work
>>> toward? I've already shared my thoughts but am open to other viable ideas
>>> if you have them.
>>>
>>> Richard Longstreth
>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> 931.538.9300
>>>
>>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 20:03 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>> And I don’t consent to my posts being deleted.  If some info needs to be
>>> scrubbed, repost the rest.
>>>
>>> This girl is done carrying water.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:00 PM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I am not inclined to just let this lay. Too many issues. I suggest
>>> that we
>>> > indeed start over and this time, do things properly and above board.
>>> >
>>> > I find it ironic that tonight I'll be the one to say Carry that water,
>>> yet
>>> > that is what Im saying
>>> >
>>> > On Oct 28, 2019 9:49 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Mr Longstreth.  Enough is enough.  I have no more benefit of the doubt
>>> to
>>> > give.  This isn’t a matter of being 100%, it’s a matter of not even
>>> being
>>> > a
>>> > Party member.
>>> >
>>> > Our objections were clear.
>>> >
>>> > The intent of the policy manual is clear.
>>> >
>>> > The fact that we are intentionally blind-sided is clear.
>>> >
>>> > The fact she is not qualified - to me - is clear and to the numerous
>>> angry
>>> > member phone calls I’ve fielded is clear.
>>> >
>>> > The fact that smoke is being blown up my behind about a MA politico
>>> having
>>> > no ties to Weld (that’s impossible) is clear.
>>> >
>>> > The fact that this is just another in a long series of completely
>>> improper
>>> > entanglements never disclosed to the LNC is clear.
>>> >
>>> > Did we give authority to hire a co tractor that would require no
>>> approval?
>>> >
>>> > WE DO NOT PLANT LIBERTY SEEDS WITH OUR DONOR LIST.  This is not
>>> > evangelism.  I can’t believe I even have to say that.
>>> >
>>> > I’m second guessing remaining a donor at this point, and that’s
>>> pathetic.
>>> >
>>> > There’s been too much “oh well what’s done is done.”
>>> >
>>> > You know what’s done? My tolerance for this.
>>> >
>>> > And we’ve never received an answer to whether Mr Fishman was paid to
>>> plan
>>> > for COAC.  Why even an unpaid was never disclosed?  Either a
>>> disclosure or
>>> > denial that Mr Sarwark was offered - even if wink wink informally - a
>>> job
>>> > with Mr Weld prior to trying to get a paid position with the party
>>> funded
>>> > by unnamed donors.
>>> >
>>> > The cumulative case stinks and I’m done sweeping it under the rug.
>>> >
>>> > And - I’m trying to word this in a non-rude manner - I don’t think
>>> Region
>>> > 1
>>> > shares your sentiments.  Perhaps they do.  I’ve been out of the loop.
>>> I
>>> > am
>>> > pretty sure that LPCO is not.  I am medium sure LPWA is not - the two
>>> > largest constituencies.
>>> >
>>> > Dan and Nick are not victims here.  And our questioning is not
>>> harassing
>>> > them.  It is doing our duty and it’s about time we all started doing
>>> it.
>>> >
>>> > We were not told the truth about Lauren.  Never forget that.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:02 PM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Too many threads out there. I'm going to break this down as simply
>>> as I
>>> > can
>>> > > and put it here and here only. I have feelings on all of this but if
>>> I
>>> > take
>>> > > a step back, here is how I am seeing things at this point. It is ok
>>> if
>>> > you
>>> > > disagree but let's figure out the next steps.
>>> > >
>>> > > 1) A contract was offered and was sent to the EPCC even though that
>>> part
>>> > of
>>> > > the PM deals with 'Directors'. The role in question was changed to a
>>> > > contracted director (read contractor) and so there is definitely some
>>> > grey
>>> > > as to how all of this should have been handled. I also note the lack
>>> of
>>> > > clear definitions. If the contract was required to be submitted, it
>>> did
>>> > not
>>> > > receive approval but if it was for a contractor, no approval needed.
>>> > News
>>> > > flash: our policy manual needs some work to fix and clarify these
>>> things
>>> > > for the future. Mr. O'Donnell had several suggestions at a previous
>>> > meeting
>>> > > and it may be worth revisiting them.
>>> > >
>>> > > 2) Our new DD is not 100% in line with our philosophies. I agree that
>>> > this
>>> > > is a concern, however, I would also note that very rarely does
>>> someone
>>> > > score a 10-10 on the Nolan quiz and we still welcome them into our
>>> folds
>>> > > and plant more liberty seeds along the way. The selected candidate
>>> meets
>>> > > all of the criteria that we voted on and approved, albeit, the
>>> feeling
>>> > of
>>> > > the room was clear, but it was not in our explicit direction. Do I
>>> wish
>>> > she
>>> > > was more libertarian, absolutely - I look forward to getting to know
>>> her
>>> > > more and find out where she disagrees with us and seeing if we can
>>> > change
>>> > > that. Until that time and given where we are at in the process,
>>> offer,
>>> > etc
>>> > > now, should we not utilize her skills and experience and trust in our
>>> > ED's
>>> > > selection and Chair's approval? Our only other option is to revoke
>>> the
>>> > > contract, pay her whatever severance fee and start over. I'm not over
>>> > the
>>> > > moon on that one.
>>> > >
>>> > > 3) So, where exactly do we go from here? Do we harass Dan until he
>>> says
>>> > he
>>> > > has done wrong? Resigns? Do we go after Oliver and Nick for
>>> approving?
>>> > Are
>>> > > we just raising flags to bring public attention and if so, what's the
>>> > > actual point unless you are campaigning (which is not the purpose of
>>> > this
>>> > > email list)? Do we demand the contract be cancelled and start the
>>> search
>>> > > over? All of these are options I suppose. Or, as a suggestion, we
>>> could
>>> > > recognize this opportunity to move our organization forward and
>>> ensure
>>> > that
>>> > > future LNCs have a clearer procedure and policy manual? First, I
>>> suggest
>>> > we
>>> > > let up and give the new DD a chance. Second, I propose we redirect
>>> this
>>> > > conversation to policy manual fixes and workshopping a hiring policy.
>>> > Off
>>> > > the top of my head, we need to clarify in a real way what the LNC
>>> should
>>> > be
>>> > > involved with at the very least - all hiring at an arbitrary line
>>> or, my
>>> > > suggestion, should we restrict the LNC to only be involved in
>>> employment
>>> > > matters concerning the ED and evaluating their performance?
>>> > >
>>> > > 4) I will say that thus far our discussion has not been largely
>>> > productive.
>>> > > What do we, as the governing body of the world's largest Libertarian
>>> > Party
>>> > > intend to do in an effort to ease the future growth and expansion of
>>> our
>>> > > Party? How can we use this to set an example for affiliate parties?
>>> I am
>>> > > happy to take part in any discussion that focuses on where we go.
>>> What's
>>> > > been done is done and as far as I can tell, nobody actually did
>>> anything
>>> > > wrong outside of optics and a very large grey area in our policy
>>> manual
>>> > was
>>> > > discovered. Let's figure out how to fix it.
>>> > >
>>> > > Richard Longstreth
>>> > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>> > > Libertarian National Committee
>>> > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> > > 931.538.9300
>>> > >
>>> > > Sent from my Mobile Device
>>> > >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > *In Liberty,*
>>> >
>>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>> faux
>>> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>>
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>