[Lnc-business] Notice for Policy Manual Budget Motion

[Richard Longstreth]

If that's the case, I can support changing the language. I am always
cautious to change things just because we've never done it that way. Not
being contrary, just cautious.

Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 07:10 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I don’t think everyone knows the EC spends a good deal of time on the
> budget ahead of time.
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:26 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > Richard,
> >
> > The Executive Committee spent two hours going over and making changes to
> > the proposed budget that you see prior to last weekend's LNC meeting.
> >
> > I see no problem in correcting language in the Policy Manual that has
> > been de facto ignored for several years as our cycle of income and
> > expenses has developed over the past decade or so.  I would guess we
> > will address this prior to considering the budget so all should be good.
> >
> > ---
> > Sam Goldstein
> > Libertarian National Committee
> > 317-850-0726 Cell
> >
> > On 2019-11-05 06:36, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
> > > I am of the thought that the proposed budget be submitted under the
> > > current
> > > rules and the LNC works together to go beyond that if needed and prior
> > > to
> > > passing. If the practice is not meeting the rule, perhaps that is
> > > partially
> > > why we found ourselves in a hole this time last year and I suggest
> > > submitting a new budget with a list of further considerations for the
> > > LNC
> > > as a whole to work through.
> > >
> > > The budget is supposed to be worked on and adjusted as needs and funds
> > > arise. It is not meant to be proposed and passed blindly without
> > > workshopping.
> > >
> > > Richard Longstreth
> > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> > > Libertarian National Committee
> > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
> > > 931.538.9300
> > >
> > > Sent from my Mobile Device
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 18:00 Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> No, it will not. The proposed budget has revenues of $2,343,400. The
> > >> existing policy requires the submitted budget's revenues be no more
> > >> than
> > >> around $1,500,000, depending on what the October 2019 revenues were,
> > >> which we don't have yet. The proposed budget has convention revenues
> > >> of
> > >> $353,000, and we had no convention revenues booked for the last twelve
> > >> months since they get booked when the convention occurs. The proposed
> > >> budget has ballot access donations of $149,800, and we've received
> > >> $34,571 ballot access revenues the past twelve months. These two and
> > >> branding/political materials revenue change drastically between
> > >> odd-numbered years and Presidential-election years. We have not been
> > >> in
> > >> compliance with the policy on almost all even-numbered years' budgets.
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> Tim Hagan
> > >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> > >>
> > >> On 2019-11-04 14:07, Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Tim,
> > >> >
> > >> > Quick question, would the current proposed budget for 2020 be in
> > >> compliance with the exiating policy manual without this Amendment?
> > >> >
> > >> > Justin O'Donnell
> > >> > LNC Region 8 Representative
> > >> >
> > >> > On Nov 4, 2019 3:52 PM, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> OK.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ---
> > >> >> Tim Hagan
> > >> >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 2019-11-04 12:49, Sam Goldstein wrote:
> > >> >>> Tim,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I move to amend the phrase "Presidential-midterm" to just
> "midterm".
> > >> >>> Otherwise it sounds confusing.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> ---
> > >> >>> Sam Goldstein
> > >> >>> Libertarian National Committee
> > >> >>> 317-850-0726 Cell
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On 2019-11-04 15:45, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business wrote:
> > >> >>>> The Policy Manual Section 2.03, Subsection 3 - Budget (page 31)
> in
> > >> >>>> part
> > >> >>>> says, "No budget shall be submitted to the LNC for approval that
> > >> >>>> exceeds
> > >> >>>> 110% of the actual revenue over the immediate past 12 months
> prior
> > to
> > >> >>>> the date of the budget approval."
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> With a convention, ballot access expenses, and higher general
> > >> interest
> > >> >>>> in politics, the revenues and expenses during
> Presidential-election
> > >> >>>> years are quite different from odd-numbered years, and mid-term
> > years
> > >> >>>> are somewhat in between them.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> At the meeting, either during the Treasurer Report or as New
> > >> Business,
> > >> >>>> I
> > >> >>>> will be moving to amend this paragraph to read:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> No budget for an odd-numbered year shall be submitted to the LNC
> > for
> > >> >>>> approval that exceeds 110% of the actual revenue of the most
> > previous
> > >> >>>> odd-numbered year. No budget for a Presidential-election year
> shall
> > >> be
> > >> >>>> submitted to the LNC for approval that exceeds 110% of the actual
> > >> >>>> revenue of the most previous Presidential-election year. No
> budget
> > >> for
> > >> >>>> a
> > >> >>>> Presidential-midterm year shall be submitted to the LNC for
> > approval
> > >> >>>> that exceeds 110% of the actual revenue of the most previous
> > >> >>>> Presidential-midterm year.
> > >>
> >
> --
>
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