[Lnc-business] Notice for Policy Manual Budget Motion

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Mr. Hagan, will these change be introduced during your report time?  I
don't see a separate agenda item for it.

*In Liberty,*

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:08 AM Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth at lp.org>
wrote:

> If that's the case, I can support changing the language. I am always
> cautious to change things just because we've never done it that way. Not
> being contrary, just cautious.
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 07:10 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think everyone knows the EC spends a good deal of time on the
>> budget ahead of time.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:26 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Richard,
>> >
>> > The Executive Committee spent two hours going over and making changes to
>> > the proposed budget that you see prior to last weekend's LNC meeting.
>> >
>> > I see no problem in correcting language in the Policy Manual that has
>> > been de facto ignored for several years as our cycle of income and
>> > expenses has developed over the past decade or so.  I would guess we
>> > will address this prior to considering the budget so all should be good.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Sam Goldstein
>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> > 317-850-0726 Cell
>> >
>> > On 2019-11-05 06:36, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > > I am of the thought that the proposed budget be submitted under the
>> > > current
>> > > rules and the LNC works together to go beyond that if needed and prior
>> > > to
>> > > passing. If the practice is not meeting the rule, perhaps that is
>> > > partially
>> > > why we found ourselves in a hole this time last year and I suggest
>> > > submitting a new budget with a list of further considerations for the
>> > > LNC
>> > > as a whole to work through.
>> > >
>> > > The budget is supposed to be worked on and adjusted as needs and funds
>> > > arise. It is not meant to be proposed and passed blindly without
>> > > workshopping.
>> > >
>> > > Richard Longstreth
>> > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> > > Libertarian National Committee
>> > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> > > 931.538.9300
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my Mobile Device
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 18:00 Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
>> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> No, it will not. The proposed budget has revenues of $2,343,400. The
>> > >> existing policy requires the submitted budget's revenues be no more
>> > >> than
>> > >> around $1,500,000, depending on what the October 2019 revenues were,
>> > >> which we don't have yet. The proposed budget has convention revenues
>> > >> of
>> > >> $353,000, and we had no convention revenues booked for the last
>> twelve
>> > >> months since they get booked when the convention occurs. The proposed
>> > >> budget has ballot access donations of $149,800, and we've received
>> > >> $34,571 ballot access revenues the past twelve months. These two and
>> > >> branding/political materials revenue change drastically between
>> > >> odd-numbered years and Presidential-election years. We have not been
>> > >> in
>> > >> compliance with the policy on almost all even-numbered years'
>> budgets.
>> > >>
>> > >> ---
>> > >> Tim Hagan
>> > >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>> > >>
>> > >> On 2019-11-04 14:07, Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Tim,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Quick question, would the current proposed budget for 2020 be in
>> > >> compliance with the exiating policy manual without this Amendment?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Justin O'Donnell
>> > >> > LNC Region 8 Representative
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Nov 4, 2019 3:52 PM, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
>> > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> OK.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> ---
>> > >> >> Tim Hagan
>> > >> >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On 2019-11-04 12:49, Sam Goldstein wrote:
>> > >> >>> Tim,
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> I move to amend the phrase "Presidential-midterm" to just
>> "midterm".
>> > >> >>> Otherwise it sounds confusing.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> ---
>> > >> >>> Sam Goldstein
>> > >> >>> Libertarian National Committee
>> > >> >>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> On 2019-11-04 15:45, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > >> >>>> The Policy Manual Section 2.03, Subsection 3 - Budget (page 31)
>> in
>> > >> >>>> part
>> > >> >>>> says, "No budget shall be submitted to the LNC for approval that
>> > >> >>>> exceeds
>> > >> >>>> 110% of the actual revenue over the immediate past 12 months
>> prior
>> > to
>> > >> >>>> the date of the budget approval."
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> With a convention, ballot access expenses, and higher general
>> > >> interest
>> > >> >>>> in politics, the revenues and expenses during
>> Presidential-election
>> > >> >>>> years are quite different from odd-numbered years, and mid-term
>> > years
>> > >> >>>> are somewhat in between them.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> At the meeting, either during the Treasurer Report or as New
>> > >> Business,
>> > >> >>>> I
>> > >> >>>> will be moving to amend this paragraph to read:
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> No budget for an odd-numbered year shall be submitted to the LNC
>> > for
>> > >> >>>> approval that exceeds 110% of the actual revenue of the most
>> > previous
>> > >> >>>> odd-numbered year. No budget for a Presidential-election year
>> shall
>> > >> be
>> > >> >>>> submitted to the LNC for approval that exceeds 110% of the
>> actual
>> > >> >>>> revenue of the most previous Presidential-election year. No
>> budget
>> > >> for
>> > >> >>>> a
>> > >> >>>> Presidential-midterm year shall be submitted to the LNC for
>> > approval
>> > >> >>>> that exceeds 110% of the actual revenue of the most previous
>> > >> >>>> Presidential-midterm year.
>> > >>
>> >
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
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