[Lnc-business] Notice for Policy Manual Budget Motion

[Tim Hagan]

Yes, I will move it during the Treasurer Report, and with Mr. 
Goldstein's suggestion to use "midterm" instead of "Presidential 
midterm".

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Tim Hagan
Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee

On 2019-11-13 21:35, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> Mr. Hagan, will these change be introduced during your report time?  I
> don't see a separate agenda item for it.
> 
> *In Liberty,*
> 
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> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:08 AM Richard Longstreth 
> <richard.longstreth at lp.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> If that's the case, I can support changing the language. I am always
>> cautious to change things just because we've never done it that way. 
>> Not
>> being contrary, just cautious.
>> 
>> Richard Longstreth
>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> 931.538.9300
>> 
>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 07:10 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don’t think everyone knows the EC spends a good deal of time on the
>>> budget ahead of time.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:26 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Richard,
>>> >
>>> > The Executive Committee spent two hours going over and making changes to
>>> > the proposed budget that you see prior to last weekend's LNC meeting.
>>> >
>>> > I see no problem in correcting language in the Policy Manual that has
>>> > been de facto ignored for several years as our cycle of income and
>>> > expenses has developed over the past decade or so.  I would guess we
>>> > will address this prior to considering the budget so all should be good.
>>> >
>>> > ---
>>> > Sam Goldstein
>>> > Libertarian National Committee
>>> > 317-850-0726 Cell
>>> >
>>> > On 2019-11-05 06:36, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> > > I am of the thought that the proposed budget be submitted under the
>>> > > current
>>> > > rules and the LNC works together to go beyond that if needed and prior
>>> > > to
>>> > > passing. If the practice is not meeting the rule, perhaps that is
>>> > > partially
>>> > > why we found ourselves in a hole this time last year and I suggest
>>> > > submitting a new budget with a list of further considerations for the
>>> > > LNC
>>> > > as a whole to work through.
>>> > >
>>> > > The budget is supposed to be worked on and adjusted as needs and funds
>>> > > arise. It is not meant to be proposed and passed blindly without
>>> > > workshopping.
>>> > >
>>> > > Richard Longstreth
>>> > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>> > > Libertarian National Committee
>>> > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> > > 931.538.9300
>>> > >
>>> > > Sent from my Mobile Device
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 18:00 Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
>>> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> No, it will not. The proposed budget has revenues of $2,343,400. The
>>> > >> existing policy requires the submitted budget's revenues be no more
>>> > >> than
>>> > >> around $1,500,000, depending on what the October 2019 revenues were,
>>> > >> which we don't have yet. The proposed budget has convention revenues
>>> > >> of
>>> > >> $353,000, and we had no convention revenues booked for the last
>>> twelve
>>> > >> months since they get booked when the convention occurs. The proposed
>>> > >> budget has ballot access donations of $149,800, and we've received
>>> > >> $34,571 ballot access revenues the past twelve months. These two and
>>> > >> branding/political materials revenue change drastically between
>>> > >> odd-numbered years and Presidential-election years. We have not been
>>> > >> in
>>> > >> compliance with the policy on almost all even-numbered years'
>>> budgets.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> ---
>>> > >> Tim Hagan
>>> > >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 2019-11-04 14:07, Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > Tim,
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Quick question, would the current proposed budget for 2020 be in
>>> > >> compliance with the exiating policy manual without this Amendment?
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Justin O'Donnell
>>> > >> > LNC Region 8 Representative
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On Nov 4, 2019 3:52 PM, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
>>> > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >> OK.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> ---
>>> > >> >> Tim Hagan
>>> > >> >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> On 2019-11-04 12:49, Sam Goldstein wrote:
>>> > >> >>> Tim,
>>> > >> >>>
>>> > >> >>> I move to amend the phrase "Presidential-midterm" to just
>>> "midterm".
>>> > >> >>> Otherwise it sounds confusing.
>>> > >> >>>
>>> > >> >>> ---
>>> > >> >>> Sam Goldstein
>>> > >> >>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> > >> >>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>> > >> >>>
>>> > >> >>> On 2019-11-04 15:45, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> > >> >>>> The Policy Manual Section 2.03, Subsection 3 - Budget (page 31)
>>> in
>>> > >> >>>> part
>>> > >> >>>> says, "No budget shall be submitted to the LNC for approval that
>>> > >> >>>> exceeds
>>> > >> >>>> 110% of the actual revenue over the immediate past 12 months
>>> prior
>>> > to
>>> > >> >>>> the date of the budget approval."
>>> > >> >>>>
>>> > >> >>>> With a convention, ballot access expenses, and higher general
>>> > >> interest
>>> > >> >>>> in politics, the revenues and expenses during
>>> Presidential-election
>>> > >> >>>> years are quite different from odd-numbered years, and mid-term
>>> > years
>>> > >> >>>> are somewhat in between them.
>>> > >> >>>>
>>> > >> >>>> At the meeting, either during the Treasurer Report or as New
>>> > >> Business,
>>> > >> >>>> I
>>> > >> >>>> will be moving to amend this paragraph to read:
>>> > >> >>>>
>>> > >> >>>> No budget for an odd-numbered year shall be submitted to the LNC
>>> > for
>>> > >> >>>> approval that exceeds 110% of the actual revenue of the most
>>> > previous
>>> > >> >>>> odd-numbered year. No budget for a Presidential-election year
>>> shall
>>> > >> be
>>> > >> >>>> submitted to the LNC for approval that exceeds 110% of the
>>> actual
>>> > >> >>>> revenue of the most previous Presidential-election year. No
>>> budget
>>> > >> for
>>> > >> >>>> a
>>> > >> >>>> Presidential-midterm year shall be submitted to the LNC for
>>> > approval
>>> > >> >>>> that exceeds 110% of the actual revenue of the most previous
>>> > >> >>>> Presidential-midterm year.
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> --
>>> 
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> 
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's 
>>> Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If 
>>> anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social 
>>> faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>> 
>>