[Lnc-business] Notice for Policy Manual Budget Motion

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Thank you

*In Liberty,*

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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 11:10 PM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Yes, I will move it during the Treasurer Report, and with Mr.
> Goldstein's suggestion to use "midterm" instead of "Presidential
> midterm".
>
> ---
> Tim Hagan
> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>
> On 2019-11-13 21:35, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Mr. Hagan, will these change be introduced during your report time?  I
> > don't see a separate agenda item for it.
> >
> > *In Liberty,*
> >
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> > faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:08 AM Richard Longstreth
> > <richard.longstreth at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If that's the case, I can support changing the language. I am always
> >> cautious to change things just because we've never done it that way.
> >> Not
> >> being contrary, just cautious.
> >>
> >> Richard Longstreth
> >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> >> Libertarian National Committee
> >> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >> 931.538.9300
> >>
> >> Sent from my Mobile Device
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 07:10 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don’t think everyone knows the EC spends a good deal of time on the
> >>> budget ahead of time.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:26 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
> >>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Richard,
> >>> >
> >>> > The Executive Committee spent two hours going over and making
> changes to
> >>> > the proposed budget that you see prior to last weekend's LNC meeting.
> >>> >
> >>> > I see no problem in correcting language in the Policy Manual that has
> >>> > been de facto ignored for several years as our cycle of income and
> >>> > expenses has developed over the past decade or so.  I would guess we
> >>> > will address this prior to considering the budget so all should be
> good.
> >>> >
> >>> > ---
> >>> > Sam Goldstein
> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
> >>> > 317-850-0726 Cell
> >>> >
> >>> > On 2019-11-05 06:36, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>> > > I am of the thought that the proposed budget be submitted under the
> >>> > > current
> >>> > > rules and the LNC works together to go beyond that if needed and
> prior
> >>> > > to
> >>> > > passing. If the practice is not meeting the rule, perhaps that is
> >>> > > partially
> >>> > > why we found ourselves in a hole this time last year and I suggest
> >>> > > submitting a new budget with a list of further considerations for
> the
> >>> > > LNC
> >>> > > as a whole to work through.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The budget is supposed to be worked on and adjusted as needs and
> funds
> >>> > > arise. It is not meant to be proposed and passed blindly without
> >>> > > workshopping.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Richard Longstreth
> >>> > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA,
> WY)
> >>> > > Libertarian National Committee
> >>> > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >>> > > 931.538.9300
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sent from my Mobile Device
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 18:00 Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> >>> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> No, it will not. The proposed budget has revenues of $2,343,400.
> The
> >>> > >> existing policy requires the submitted budget's revenues be no
> more
> >>> > >> than
> >>> > >> around $1,500,000, depending on what the October 2019 revenues
> were,
> >>> > >> which we don't have yet. The proposed budget has convention
> revenues
> >>> > >> of
> >>> > >> $353,000, and we had no convention revenues booked for the last
> >>> twelve
> >>> > >> months since they get booked when the convention occurs. The
> proposed
> >>> > >> budget has ballot access donations of $149,800, and we've received
> >>> > >> $34,571 ballot access revenues the past twelve months. These two
> and
> >>> > >> branding/political materials revenue change drastically between
> >>> > >> odd-numbered years and Presidential-election years. We have not
> been
> >>> > >> in
> >>> > >> compliance with the policy on almost all even-numbered years'
> >>> budgets.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> ---
> >>> > >> Tim Hagan
> >>> > >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 2019-11-04 14:07, Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > Tim,
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Quick question, would the current proposed budget for 2020 be in
> >>> > >> compliance with the exiating policy manual without this Amendment?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Justin O'Donnell
> >>> > >> > LNC Region 8 Representative
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > On Nov 4, 2019 3:52 PM, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> >>> > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >> OK.
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >> ---
> >>> > >> >> Tim Hagan
> >>> > >> >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >> On 2019-11-04 12:49, Sam Goldstein wrote:
> >>> > >> >>> Tim,
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> I move to amend the phrase "Presidential-midterm" to just
> >>> "midterm".
> >>> > >> >>> Otherwise it sounds confusing.
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> ---
> >>> > >> >>> Sam Goldstein
> >>> > >> >>> Libertarian National Committee
> >>> > >> >>> 317-850-0726 Cell
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> On 2019-11-04 15:45, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>> > >> >>>> The Policy Manual Section 2.03, Subsection 3 - Budget (page
> 31)
> >>> in
> >>> > >> >>>> part
> >>> > >> >>>> says, "No budget shall be submitted to the LNC for approval
> that
> >>> > >> >>>> exceeds
> >>> > >> >>>> 110% of the actual revenue over the immediate past 12 months
> >>> prior
> >>> > to
> >>> > >> >>>> the date of the budget approval."
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> With a convention, ballot access expenses, and higher general
> >>> > >> interest
> >>> > >> >>>> in politics, the revenues and expenses during
> >>> Presidential-election
> >>> > >> >>>> years are quite different from odd-numbered years, and
> mid-term
> >>> > years
> >>> > >> >>>> are somewhat in between them.
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> At the meeting, either during the Treasurer Report or as New
> >>> > >> Business,
> >>> > >> >>>> I
> >>> > >> >>>> will be moving to amend this paragraph to read:
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> No budget for an odd-numbered year shall be submitted to the
> LNC
> >>> > for
> >>> > >> >>>> approval that exceeds 110% of the actual revenue of the most
> >>> > previous
> >>> > >> >>>> odd-numbered year. No budget for a Presidential-election year
> >>> shall
> >>> > >> be
> >>> > >> >>>> submitted to the LNC for approval that exceeds 110% of the
> >>> actual
> >>> > >> >>>> revenue of the most previous Presidential-election year. No
> >>> budget
> >>> > >> for
> >>> > >> >>>> a
> >>> > >> >>>> Presidential-midterm year shall be submitted to the LNC for
> >>> > approval
> >>> > >> >>>> that exceeds 110% of the actual revenue of the most previous
> >>> > >> >>>> Presidential-midterm year.
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> *In Liberty,*
> >>>
> >>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >>> Syndrome
> >>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >>> anyone
> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >>> faux
> >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >>>
> >>
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