[Lnc-business] Fwd: National Platform Committee starting

[Alicia Mattson]

<CAH> I personally think it is a bad look for you to send out a 2020
version when I have already been working on one with the state chairs being
well aware of that fact, but that is your choice.</CAH>

Not sure why you're portraying it this way, as though I'm stepping on a
secretarial duty, rather than you stepping into a personal project that
I've done for years.

1)  There is nothing which tasks an LNC secretary with doing such a
project.  The rules only task the secretary with producing and distributing
the delegate allocations, and you have completed that.

2)  Besides the years that I was a party officer, I also produced this
manual for the 2014 convention, when I was not even an LNC member.

3)  Last term, during (probably during the secretary's report of) an LNC
meeting, you thought the LNC should order me to not recommend wording for a
regional agreement.  You argued that it was the LNC exerting improper
influence over the states/regions.  I noted that it was a personal project
containing my recommendation, not an official duty directed by the LNC or
the rules, and pointed out that I specifically say in the manual that
regions are not required to use that agreement, or any agreement at all.
The discussion resulted in a general understanding that it was my personal
project, thus you didn't ultimately make a motion to ask the LNC to make
directives about it.

By the way, your Regional Formation document incorrectly describes that
agreement language as something that the LNC has recommended, but that's
not correct, as was previously discussed in the situation I noted above.
Though you previously thought it was improper meddling for me to recommend
agreement language, the Regional Formation document you produced not only
includes the one I normally recommend but another sample agreement as well.

4) When at the beginning of this term you asked to take over production of
this document, and I reminded you (I believe in September 2018) that it was
a personal project and that I planned to continue my habit of producing
this manual for the 2020 convention.  This is hardly news to you.  If you
produce something containing other advice, perhaps another document name
would be a good idea to avoid confusion with the one I have already
distributed for 2020.

-Alicia



On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 3:11 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> Updated:
>
> *https://tinyurl.com/2020PlatcommWelcome
> <https://tinyurl.com/2020PlatcommWelcome>*
>
> *And as you know, I am already working with several state chairs on
> finalizing a 2020 delegation and delegation chair manual.  The  ones I
> create can be used and edited freely by any successor, with the Word copies
> in the Party archives.  *
>
> *Nearly every chair I spoke to believed your prior manual was "official"
> and part of the party documents.  I have not taken a look at what you
> attached since I already have my own to be sent (pending some commentary I
> requested from state chairs), please make it clear that this is your
> personal project and not produced within the scope of your elected position
> because that was not clear before.*
>
> *I personally think it is a bad look for you to send out a 2020 version
> when I have already been working on one with the state chairs being well
> aware of that fact, but that is your choice.  Personally, I think people
> will read something into that that neither of us would want and would not
> be good for the Party.  But obviously you can do so, I just ask you to
> consider the impression that will give.*
>
>
> *This can be avoided if you agree to turn over this manual to the Party
> and allow me to edit and pass on with all of the names added.  I only
> resorted to doing my own because I have information I want to impart and
> you declined letting me build on the prior one.*
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 3:03 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Caryn Ann,
>>
>> It's interesting that on page 2 of this document you do say that if
>> someone
>> re-uses your work, credit would be appreciated.  I see a sizable section
>> that was substantially copy/pasted verbatim from materials that I wrote
>> from scratch as instructions for electronic meeting participants, but the
>> courtesy of credit was not given to me.  For additional irony, the final
>> sentence of the email again attempts to drive the narrative that such
>> contributions to institutional knowledge didn't exist before, all while
>> partially copying materials written by your predecessor.  :-)  Just
>> sayin'...
>>
>> Even though I have changed the Delegation Chair's Manual quite a bit from
>> when I took up the task, I still give Bob Sullentrup front-page credit,
>> and
>> some of his original work is still there intertwined with mine.  Attached
>> is the 2020 version, where you can see his name on the front page.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 5:23 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > FYI - in case you are interested in the welcome package I have developed
>> > for the platform committee.
>> >
>> > *  In Liberty,*
>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> faux
>> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  *
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> > From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 4:55 AM
>> > Subject: National Platform Committee starting
>> > To: LP State Chairs <statechairs at hq.lp.org>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello everyone, and specifically the chairs of the states that have made
>> > appointments.  I have reached out to your appointees so please let me
>> know
>> > if any say they have not received my email.  I have sent over this
>> Welcome
>> > Package which is something I prepared for this term drawing upon my
>> > experience as Platform Committee Chair at the 2018 convention.  You may
>> > find parts of it useful for your own purposes.  This will be deposited
>> in
>> > the Party records for use and improvement in the future and to build our
>> > institutional knowledge and education which has been a source of
>> > frustration for me.
>> >
>> > *  In Liberty,*
>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> faux
>> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  *
>> >
>>
>