[Lnc-business] Convention - seeking cosponsor

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Not getting a good internet connection - will do once I do.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 5:53 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> Thank you.  I’m at the Delaware convention and will set this up when I’m
> back at my host house.
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 5:31 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> The following was posted two days ago in the COC's Facebook group for
>> delegates:
>>
>> UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE LIBERTARIAN NATIONAL CONVENTION:
>>
>> With growing concerns and numerous event cancellations and reschedulings
>> around the country, there has been an influx of questions concerning the
>> Libertarian National Convention in Austin, Texas from May 20th-25th.
>>
>> At the present time, our National Convention WILL PROCEED as scheduled.
>>
>> Our Convention Oversight Committee and our National Committee have been in
>> touch with both the JW Marriott Hotel hosting us and the City of Austin in
>> regards to what the best path forward is, and all parties involved expect
>> our event and venue to be safe, healthy, and successful. We will be
>> working
>> with both groups to ensure all reasonable precautions are taken.
>>
>> Due to the rapidly developing nature of both the COVID-19 virus and the
>> government response to it at the state and federal levels, we will be
>> closely monitoring our options if the situation deteriorates. Our National
>> Committee, should the need arise, will explore the legal options available
>> to us through our bylaws and state ballot access laws should a change in
>> our plans be necessary.
>>
>> With over two months until the National Convention begins, we are hopeful
>> that such a change will not be needed - and we look forward to seeing top
>> Libertarian activists, candidates, and delegates from around the country
>> in
>> May! In the time being, please follow public hygiene advice and take care
>> of yourselves.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 2:07 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I'll co-sponsor.
>> >
>> > Region 3 had one last state affiliate convention scheduled for today.
>> > It was LP Michigan and they decided yesterday to postpone. I'd been in
>> > contact with the LPM Chair prior to that decision, and afterward.  That
>> > decision didn't come easy, and there's much discussion among the state
>> > affiliate members in Michigan regarding the situation. (Which was
>> > precipitated by a sudden increase of Covid-19 cases within the county
>> > where the convention was to be held.) LPM has rescheduled an electronic
>> > convention for early April.
>> >
>> > I've also discussed the National Convention situation with members.
>> > Have explained that the COC says the convention is still on, as there's
>> > no cancel edict from the hotel. Nor are there general restrictions on
>> > travel within the US. Have also explained that the LP has a contractual
>> > obligation which puts a significant financial penalty onto the LP if we
>> > cancel outside of reasons covered within the contract.
>> >
>> > With that said, I'd like to see a Plan B discussed. (I almost brought
>> > the idea to the LNC myself, as it seems prudent to discuss.)
>> >
>> > What discussion can do is help us brainstorm ideas for the worse case
>> > scenario. Better to have plans that aren't needed and/or could be
>> > quickly adjusted.  Rather than no plans and scrambling to make them.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>> > Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>> > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>> > http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2020-03-14 16:32, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > > As a region representative, I would like to have some sort of a
>> unified
>> > > message that we can put out letting people know that we are aware of
>> > > the
>> > > issue and are planning contigencies if the venue is cancelled. Right
>> > > now,
>> > > aside from my one on one talks, I would not have any idea about what
>> is
>> > > happening or what to tell people.
>> > >
>> > > If you don't want an electronic meeting, that's fine. What is
>> > > indisputable
>> > > is that our convention attendees do not know for sure if we are having
>> > > a
>> > > convention at all (obviously we are) or that back up plans are being
>> > > made
>> > > just in case (which they are but due to contractual reasons, cannot be
>> > > broadcast or officially setup until X happens). They also don't fully
>> > > comprehend why we would put people at risk and not figure out a way to
>> > > do
>> > > it all remotely (against our rules and logistically a nightmare).
>> > >
>> > > A statement or talking points need to be communicated to the LNC as a
>> > > whole
>> > > so that we are consistent with our message and so that the members of
>> > > this
>> > > committee are all on the same page before this gets worse (or better).
>> > > I
>> > > think the best medium for that is discussion and a report from the COC
>> > > chair via electronic meeting. This body cannot effectively govern if
>> it
>> > > doesn't know what the facts actually are.
>> > >
>> > > As an aside, if I have states in my regions calling emergency meetings
>> > > to
>> > > discuss options I think we should at the least do the same. I've
>> > > already
>> > > had WY reschedule and CO and WA are having emergency calls tomorrow to
>> > > discuss. The LNC is coming off as burying its head in the sand even
>> > > though
>> > > I know that is not the case at all.
>> > >
>> > > By my count we have 5 cosponsors at this point. Is there at least one
>> > > other
>> > > person who supports scheduling a meeting for 10 days from now so that
>> > > we
>> > > can say something? I would add that 10 days from now we may actually
>> > > NEED
>> > > to have a meeting if things get worse and that if it is scheduled, we
>> > > can
>> > > always cancel if the need resolves itself.
>> > >
>> > > Richard Longstreth
>> > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> > > Libertarian National Committee
>> > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> > > 931.538.9300
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my Mobile Device
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 15:01 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
>> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I agree with Ms. Mattson.  Having a meeting might make some people
>> > >> feel
>> > >> good but there is no way we can take any concrete action at this time
>> > >> since the situation is so fluid.  Unfortunately the Bylaws do not
>> > >> provide for anything other than a in-person meeting so any kind of
>> > >> electronic meeting proposal is moot.  We will just have to wait and
>> > >> see.
>> > >>
>> > >> ---
>> > >> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
>> > >> Libertarian National Committee
>> > >> 317-850-0726 Cell
>> > >>
>> > >> On 2020-03-14 15:20, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > >> > I'm not sure what there is to discuss yet.  Our hotel has NOT
>> > cancelled
>> > >> > on
>> > >> > us.  If they cancel under the impossibility / force majeure clause,
>> > >> > then we
>> > >> > have zero liability.  If that happens, yes, we will have to
>> scramble
>> > to
>> > >> > find something other way to meet and choose our presidential
>> ticket,
>> > >> > but
>> > >> > it's not like we can execute an agreement in advance under the
>> > >> > assumption
>> > >> > that the existing contract will cancel.  Circumstances are changing
>> > >> > from
>> > >> > day to day.  This problem may have diminished by then, or it may
>> have
>> > >> > gotten worse such that we're working under very different
>> parameters.
>> > >> > I
>> > >> > don't know how to plan for that.  My opinion is that we wait to see
>> > >> > what
>> > >> > actually happens, if anything, and then deal with that.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > -Alicia
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:10 AM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business <
>> > >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>         I believe that would be appropriate.
>> > >> >> In Liberty,
>> > >> >> Steven Nekhaila
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
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>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 2:04 PM -0400, "Richard Longstreth via
>> > >> >> Lnc-business" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
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>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I will cosponsor.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I would intend to move into executive session right away with
>> Daniel
>> > >> >> Hayes
>> > >> >> due to the legal and contractual considerations related to this
>> and
>> > >> >> rise
>> > >> >> out for other, public discussion.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Richard Longstreth
>> > >> >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA,
>> WY)
>> > >> >> Libertarian National Committee
>> > >> >> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> > >> >> 931.538.9300
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Sent from my Mobile Device
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 12:55 john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>> > >> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > I will co sponsor
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > John Phillips
>> > >> >> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > >> >> > Cell 217-412-5973
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On Mar 13, 2020 6:08 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> > >> >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I would like to have cosponsors to call for an emergency public
>> > >> emeeting
>> > >> >> > to
>> > >> >> > discuss this master.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > The date will be exactly 10 days after I receive the 6th
>> cosponsor
>> > at
>> > >> >> > 9-11eastern
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > -Caryn Ann
>> > >> >> > --
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > *  In Liberty,*
>> > >> >> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>> > Syndrome
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> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
> --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *