[Lnc-business] Convention: seeking co-sponsors

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

So it looks like there are three sponsors for a meeting.  We need six for
that particular motion.  I will proactively set it up  now so that I can
post potential log-in information so that there is no technical defect with
the motion.  Which also exposes a silly part of our Policy Manual - noting
the method, date, and time should be sufficient.  Having to give log in
information before we even know if there are enough sponsors is not
productive IMHO.

-Caryn Ann

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
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On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:24 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> I am seeing the first motion as a bit too strong of an approach over the
> CoC.  It makes me uncomfortable TBH.  The second I would support without
> issue.
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 7:51 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> The COC has considered and has done some work on most of those options.
>> The motion calls for "practical plan" for all the options to be
>> submitted by mid-April, a point in time when we will not even know if
>> the Austin distancing rules will be extended, modified or will expire.
>> There is no sense in developing detailed plans for multiple scenarios in
>> a situation which can change drastically overnight.
>>
>> ---
>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>
>> On 2020-03-28 09:09, john.phillips at lp.org wrote:
>>
>> > Sam,
>> >
>> > I understand your point, and am not meaning this as an attack on you or
>> anyone, but we were given the impression (not by you) that much of that
>> work had already been done, which is one of the reasons I was willing to
>> agree to it.  Was that not accurate?
>> >
>> > If it is not accurate, then we have a bigger problem. As if there is
>> not time to get that done between now and the 20th or 27th (at least in a
>> short skeleton form which is all that could be asked for) when we said we
>> would make a decision, then 1) an informed decision becomes problematic and
>> 2) it will be harder to have a fully fleshed out plan in a couple weeks
>> after that.
>> >
>> > As such I suggest a modification. Perhaps divide and conquer.  Bylaws
>> committee to delve in and verify what can be done, and what changes would
>> need to be made if we do have to have the small group in Austin.  IT to
>> investigate online alternatives, etc.
>> >
>> > I don't believe any of us want to dump a pile of work on the CoC, but
>> at least the preliminary work absolutely needs to be done, perhaps by all
>> of us instead.  I for one will be happy to jump in and help where needed.
>> >
>> > I view this as important enough I would even agree to redirect some
>> funds in the budget to help get it addressed, and if we approved such
>> action pledge a significant portion of my "stimulus" check to it.
>> >
>> > John Phillips
>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > Cell 217-412-5973
>> >
>> > On Mar 28, 2020 7:37 AM, "sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business" <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > As a member of the COC I would oppose the first motion and would resign
>> from the Committee if it passes.  There is no way all tha twork can be done
>> in a few weeks.
>> >
>> > Sam Goldstein
>> >
>> > On Mar 28, 2020 1:44 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Has the convention committee been consulted on this?  While I think the
>> LNC
>> > needs to be more proactive (thus my insistence on the last meeting), we
>> > need to respect the collective work and wisdom already done by the CoC.
>> >
>> > Too many cooks can spoil the stew.
>> >
>> > *In Liberty,*
>> >
>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> faux
>> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:01 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I would like to see a timeline for those plans to be presented to us.
>> >> Preferably at least 5 days prior to the meeting.
>> >>
>> >> Also wasn't 3 weeks discussed? That would be the 27th - not an
>> objection,
>> >> just an observation. I am ok with 4.
>> >>
>> >> John Phillips
>> >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> >> Cell 217-412-5973
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 27, 2020 10:39 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business <
>> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Colleagues,
>> >>
>> >> I have two proposals I am seeking co-sponsors for. I believe they
>> would
>> >> implement and set timelines on the discussion from our recent
>> e-meeting
>> >> discussing the convention.
>> >>
>> >> Proposal 1:
>> >> The Libertarian National Committee directs the Chair and the
>> Convention
>> >> Oversight Committee to prepare by mid-April practical plans to
>> implement
>> >> the following contingent possibilities for our 2020 National
>> Convention:
>> >> A. Everyone packed in Austin
>> >> B. Everyone 6 feet apart in Austin, either hotel or convention center
>> >> C. In-person for who can be there and special accommodations for those
>> >> who can't travel
>> >> D. Move to an outdoor space
>> >> E. Rump convention to approve rules allowing online/other convention
>> >> F. State remote satellite locations
>> >> G. 1046 person online convention
>> >> H. Relocate
>> >> I. Reschedule
>> >> J. No convention. LNC picks nominee, through some process to ratify an
>> >> electronic selection by delegates
>> >>
>> >> Proposal 2:
>> >> The Libertarian National Committee hold an electronic meeting on
>> Monday,
>> >> April 20, 2020 at 9:00 PM Eastern to decide whether and how to proceed
>> >> with our 2020 National Convention.
>> >>
>> >> JBH
>> >>
>> >> ------------
>> >> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> >> LNC Member (At-Large)
>> >> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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