[Lnc-business] Convention: seeking co-sponsors

Sat Mar 28 13:01:51 EDT 2020

Mr. Goldstein, I think the LNC would be neglecting its fiduciary duty not
to keep on top of things without being draconian or overbearing.  A meeting
is pretty mild.

*In Liberty,*

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On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> So it looks like there are three sponsors for a meeting.  We need six for
> that particular motion.  I will proactively set it up  now so that I can
> post potential log-in information so that there is no technical defect with
> the motion.  Which also exposes a silly part of our Policy Manual - noting
> the method, date, and time should be sufficient.  Having to give log in
> information before we even know if there are enough sponsors is not
> productive IMHO.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:24 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I am seeing the first motion as a bit too strong of an approach over the
>> CoC.  It makes me uncomfortable TBH.  The second I would support without
>> issue.
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 7:51 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> The COC has considered and has done some work on most of those options.
>>> The motion calls for "practical plan" for all the options to be
>>> submitted by mid-April, a point in time when we will not even know if
>>> the Austin distancing rules will be extended, modified or will expire.
>>> There is no sense in developing detailed plans for multiple scenarios in
>>> a situation which can change drastically overnight.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>
>>> On 2020-03-28 09:09, john.phillips at lp.org wrote:
>>>
>>> > Sam,
>>> >
>>> > I understand your point, and am not meaning this as an attack on you
>>> or anyone, but we were given the impression (not by you) that much of that
>>> work had already been done, which is one of the reasons I was willing to
>>> agree to it.  Was that not accurate?
>>> >
>>> > If it is not accurate, then we have a bigger problem. As if there is
>>> not time to get that done between now and the 20th or 27th (at least in a
>>> short skeleton form which is all that could be asked for) when we said we
>>> would make a decision, then 1) an informed decision becomes problematic and
>>> 2) it will be harder to have a fully fleshed out plan in a couple weeks
>>> after that.
>>> >
>>> > As such I suggest a modification. Perhaps divide and conquer.  Bylaws
>>> committee to delve in and verify what can be done, and what changes would
>>> need to be made if we do have to have the small group in Austin.  IT to
>>> investigate online alternatives, etc.
>>> >
>>> > I don't believe any of us want to dump a pile of work on the CoC, but
>>> at least the preliminary work absolutely needs to be done, perhaps by all
>>> of us instead.  I for one will be happy to jump in and help where needed.
>>> >
>>> > I view this as important enough I would even agree to redirect some
>>> funds in the budget to help get it addressed, and if we approved such
>>> action pledge a significant portion of my "stimulus" check to it.
>>> >
>>> > John Phillips
>>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>> > Cell 217-412-5973
>>> >
>>> > On Mar 28, 2020 7:37 AM, "sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business" <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > As a member of the COC I would oppose the first motion and would
>>> resign from the Committee if it passes.  There is no way all tha twork can
>>> be done in a few weeks.
>>> >
>>> > Sam Goldstein
>>> >
>>> > On Mar 28, 2020 1:44 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Has the convention committee been consulted on this?  While I think
>>> the LNC
>>> > needs to be more proactive (thus my insistence on the last meeting),
>>> we
>>> > need to respect the collective work and wisdom already done by the
>>> CoC.
>>> >
>>> > Too many cooks can spoil the stew.
>>> >
>>> > *In Liberty,*
>>> >
>>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>> anyone
>>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>> faux
>>> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:01 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I would like to see a timeline for those plans to be presented to us.
>>> >> Preferably at least 5 days prior to the meeting.
>>> >>
>>> >> Also wasn't 3 weeks discussed? That would be the 27th - not an
>>> objection,
>>> >> just an observation. I am ok with 4.
>>> >>
>>> >> John Phillips
>>> >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>> >> Cell 217-412-5973
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mar 27, 2020 10:39 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business <
>>> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Colleagues,
>>> >>
>>> >> I have two proposals I am seeking co-sponsors for. I believe they
>>> would
>>> >> implement and set timelines on the discussion from our recent
>>> e-meeting
>>> >> discussing the convention.
>>> >>
>>> >> Proposal 1:
>>> >> The Libertarian National Committee directs the Chair and the
>>> Convention
>>> >> Oversight Committee to prepare by mid-April practical plans to
>>> implement
>>> >> the following contingent possibilities for our 2020 National
>>> Convention:
>>> >> A. Everyone packed in Austin
>>> >> B. Everyone 6 feet apart in Austin, either hotel or convention center
>>> >> C. In-person for who can be there and special accommodations for
>>> those
>>> >> who can't travel
>>> >> D. Move to an outdoor space
>>> >> E. Rump convention to approve rules allowing online/other convention
>>> >> F. State remote satellite locations
>>> >> G. 1046 person online convention
>>> >> H. Relocate
>>> >> I. Reschedule
>>> >> J. No convention. LNC picks nominee, through some process to ratify
>>> an
>>> >> electronic selection by delegates
>>> >>
>>> >> Proposal 2:
>>> >> The Libertarian National Committee hold an electronic meeting on
>>> Monday,
>>> >> April 20, 2020 at 9:00 PM Eastern to decide whether and how to
>>> proceed
>>> >> with our 2020 National Convention.
>>> >>
>>> >> JBH
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------
>>> >> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>> >> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>> >> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> >> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>