[Lnc-business] Regional meetings

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

I would still really suggest asking for a ruling.  Mr. Sarwark is known to
disagree with myself and Ms. Mattson on occasion.  I personally did not
agree with his ruling that the agreements were due this weekend.  this
weekend was a narrow carve out for one purpose - the presidential and
vice-presdential nominations and thus have nothing to do with the LNC
elections of any kind.  However, no regional challenged his ruling, and I
do enough challenges.  I figured if you guys are not objecting, who am I to
object.   If I were region 1 I would be appealing that ruling.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *



On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:11 AM Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> So, if the region is formed by the 23rd (this Saturday), can the region rep
> be selected at the in-person in July?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020, 3:02 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > The good news is that we don't have to guess.  Bylaws and Convention
> Rules
> > answer all of these questions.
> >
> > Bylaw 7.2.c - Regions must be formed by the 2nd day of the convention,
> but
> > the paperwork giving notice of the region formation must be given to the
> > Secretary prior to the close of the convention.  If the convention
> finishes
> > out in Orlando, then that's the close of the convention.
> >
> > Bylaw 7.3 - "The National Committee shall take office immediately upon
> the
> > close of the Regular Convention at which they are selected, and serve
> until
> > the final adjournment of the next Regular Convention."
> >
> > LNC terms begin and end at the final adjournment of conventions.
> >
> > The reason the CA operates differently is that they have 10% by
> themselves,
> > are entitled to a region rep by themselves, and always make regional
> > agreements that give them control of who their rep is, and regional
> > agreements which establish the rules for replacing the rep as being the
> CA
> > affiliate bylaws. Then the CA bylaws say that the CA convention elects
> the
> > region rep and that newly elected person immediately replaces the
> > previously elected one, essentially removing a rep when they please and
> > appointing a replacement to finish out the remainder of what the national
> > bylaws consider to be a normal term.  See Bylaw 7.8 which allows the
> region
> > control over removing/replacing region reps when and how they please so
> > long as they spell out the procedure.
> >
> > -Alicia
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 7:32 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I think this is a very gray area.  you may want to get a ruling from
> the
> > > chair.  I would put everything you want in the agreement - and I would
> > not
> > > assume that the reps take office - as Sam said - in Orlando.  I
> actually
> > > think the opposite is true unless that is set out in the agreement.
> > >
> > > You cannot be wrong by specifying each thing in the agreement.
> > >
> > > *In Liberty,*
> > >
> > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> faux
> > > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 6:43 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Heh, you can get in trouble for even thinking these days!
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> > > > Libertarian National Committee
> > > > 317-850-0726 Cell
> > > >
> > > > On 2020-05-19 20:40, john.phillips at lp.org wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Kinda what I was thinking, but I get myself in trouble assuming, so
> > was
> > > > hoping for an official answer
> > > > >
> > > > > John Phillips
> > > > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > > > > Cell 217-412-5973
> > > > >
> > > > > On May 19, 2020 7:30 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The new regional reps don't take office until the post convention
> LNC
> > > > meeting so I would assume you can have your election at Orlando.
> Also
> > > > there is a chance the JC might change to regional representation if
> > that
> > > > Bylaw passes and that person would also have to be elected.
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> > > > > Libertarian National Committee
> > > > > 317-850-0726 Cell
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2020-05-19 20:14, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> > > > > Question for clarity.
> > > > > Regional agreements need to be done on/by saturday.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do regional elections as well? Or -presuming we don't change
> > anything -
> > > > are those not due until we do other lnc elections?
> > > > >
> > > > > John Phillips
> > > > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > > > > Cell 217-412-5973
> > > >
> > >
> >
>