[Lnc-business] Email from LP national ED-Not good message

Joe Bishop-Henchman joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
Thu May 21 13:26:40 EDT 2020


Right, I think "whittle down" was the flashpoint, everyone appreciates 
the practice sessions and the effort to make this work

JBH

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Joe Bishop-Henchman
LNC Member (At-Large)
joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

On 2020-05-21 13:22, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> Dan Fishman,
> 
> Thank you for replying.
> 
> This language:   "I'm sending a list to all the state chairs of the
> delegates and alternates who aren't attending any of the practice
> sessions so they can whittle down their final delegate lists."   Is
> wrong.
> 
> Nor, does that say "the spreadsheet makes delegation chairs aware and
> allows the delegation chair to contact their group."
> 
> Which you could have said.  The difference isn't an inartful phrasing,
> but two different meanings.
> 
> I also got a message last night from a different Region 3 delegate, who
> said, and they quoted you:
> 
> --------
> 
> 'Fishman just mentioned to an alternate that chairs are "aggressively
> kicking people out" and it's possible she'd be promoted to delegate
> 
> In the training I'm in.'
> 
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> 
> So, what I'm getting is delegates complaining that the LP national ED 
> is
> saying, or implying, that delegates are going to be, or are being,
> 'whittled' or 'kicked' from their delegate spots.   This is not a good
> look for LP national.  We work for the delegates.  Not the other way
> around.   I know you're helping the delegates, and that work is much
> appreciated.  The LP should've gone with some professional company,
> instead of this DYI on Zoom.  I understand that you have your hands 
> full
> in an effort to make it work.  I understand that you'll, "try to choose
> words less ambiguously" in the future regarding our delegates.
> 
> Regards,
> EVH
> 
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> 
> On 2020-05-21 12:28, Daniel Fishman wrote:
> 
>> I regret any confusion. The list is compiled based on the list of 
>> delegates and alternates and then removing the people who have signed 
>> into a zoom training session.
>> Prior to that email we were under 35% attendance. It is true that 
>> people who attend with a different email address than the one we send 
>> the zoom got this email -- hence my statement "no one with this email 
>> address...." It's also true that many people are unaware when they 
>> sign into zoom with their work email.
>> 
>> I absolutely want people to attend at least one practice session. 
>> Having done hundreds of tech rollouts, customer training is the 
>> critical aspect in determining success. I provided the spreadsheet, 
>> broken up by state, to all the state chairs so they could contact only 
>> those we saw at risk as having not been to a training and encourage 
>> them to get training. My comment at the end, perhaps inartfully 
>> phrased, was meant to indicate that that the spreadsheet makes 
>> delegation chairs aware and allows the delegation chair to contact 
>> their group.
>> 
>> I am doing everything I can to ensure success of the convention, and 
>> the fewer people we have who are logging into zoom for the very first 
>> time on Friday, the more successful we will be.
>> 
>> Obviously the lists are controlled by the delegation chairs, and I 
>> certainly regret that people felt threatened. I am operating at 
>> breakneck speed, and assumed everyone understood that only states and 
>> delegation chairs control the lists. I will try to choose words less 
>> ambiguously.
>> 
>> Please encourage everyone who hasn't been to a zoom training yet to 
>> get to the one this afternoon.
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Fishman
>> Executive Director
>> The Libertarian Party
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