[Lnc-business] Email from LP national ED-Not good message

Daniel Fishman dan.fishman at lphq.org
Thu May 21 14:00:49 EDT 2020


In the training session I did last night a delegate said that their state
had a meeting that night and decided they were going to ping people during
the convention and remove people who weren't participating.

On the plus side -- today the number of people who have never been in a
test is only 330 of 1600.
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Daniel Fishman
Executive Director
The Libertarian Party
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On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 1:27 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman <
joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:

> Right, I think "whittle down" was the flashpoint, everyone appreciates
> the practice sessions and the effort to make this work
>
> JBH
>
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
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>
> On 2020-05-21 13:22, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Dan Fishman,
> >
> > Thank you for replying.
> >
> > This language:   "I'm sending a list to all the state chairs of the
> > delegates and alternates who aren't attending any of the practice
> > sessions so they can whittle down their final delegate lists."   Is
> > wrong.
> >
> > Nor, does that say "the spreadsheet makes delegation chairs aware and
> > allows the delegation chair to contact their group."
> >
> > Which you could have said.  The difference isn't an inartful phrasing,
> > but two different meanings.
> >
> > I also got a message last night from a different Region 3 delegate, who
> > said, and they quoted you:
> >
> > --------
> >
> > 'Fishman just mentioned to an alternate that chairs are "aggressively
> > kicking people out" and it's possible she'd be promoted to delegate
> >
> > In the training I'm in.'
> >
> > -----------
> >
> > So, what I'm getting is delegates complaining that the LP national ED
> > is
> > saying, or implying, that delegates are going to be, or are being,
> > 'whittled' or 'kicked' from their delegate spots.   This is not a good
> > look for LP national.  We work for the delegates.  Not the other way
> > around.   I know you're helping the delegates, and that work is much
> > appreciated.  The LP should've gone with some professional company,
> > instead of this DYI on Zoom.  I understand that you have your hands
> > full
> > in an effort to make it work.  I understand that you'll, "try to choose
> > words less ambiguously" in the future regarding our delegates.
> >
> > Regards,
> > EVH
> >
> > ---
> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >
> > On 2020-05-21 12:28, Daniel Fishman wrote:
> >
> >> I regret any confusion. The list is compiled based on the list of
> >> delegates and alternates and then removing the people who have signed
> >> into a zoom training session.
> >> Prior to that email we were under 35% attendance. It is true that
> >> people who attend with a different email address than the one we send
> >> the zoom got this email -- hence my statement "no one with this email
> >> address...." It's also true that many people are unaware when they
> >> sign into zoom with their work email.
> >>
> >> I absolutely want people to attend at least one practice session.
> >> Having done hundreds of tech rollouts, customer training is the
> >> critical aspect in determining success. I provided the spreadsheet,
> >> broken up by state, to all the state chairs so they could contact only
> >> those we saw at risk as having not been to a training and encourage
> >> them to get training. My comment at the end, perhaps inartfully
> >> phrased, was meant to indicate that that the spreadsheet makes
> >> delegation chairs aware and allows the delegation chair to contact
> >> their group.
> >>
> >> I am doing everything I can to ensure success of the convention, and
> >> the fewer people we have who are logging into zoom for the very first
> >> time on Friday, the more successful we will be.
> >>
> >> Obviously the lists are controlled by the delegation chairs, and I
> >> certainly regret that people felt threatened. I am operating at
> >> breakneck speed, and assumed everyone understood that only states and
> >> delegation chairs control the lists. I will try to choose words less
> >> ambiguously.
> >>
> >> Please encourage everyone who hasn't been to a zoom training yet to
> >> get to the one this afternoon.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Daniel Fishman
> >> Executive Director
> >> The Libertarian Party
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