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[Alicia Mattson]

I am confused about how some delegations are making changes to their lists
at this point.  We were told that the final Credentials Committee meeting
prior to this weekend's event was on Sunday afternoon.

Bylaw Article 10.4.c:  " A list of the names and addresses of all delegates
and alternates chosen by each affiliate party shall be sent to the
Credentials Committee no later than one month prior to start of the first
general session of the Regular Convention. Amendments to such lists may be
made by the affiliate parties and submitted to the Credentials Committee
until the close of the Credentials Committee meeting preceding the
Convention."

Since that meeting has passed, affiliates should not be making changes to
their lists.  Updating email addresses and phone numbers is one thing, but
changing who is on the lists is another.

The chair has said we're going to try to follow our bylaws and rules as
closely as possible for this weekend's event, but that's just what is said,
not what is actually done.  It's clear to many of us that the voluntarily
agreed to rules we have adopted for ourselves will be bulldozed.

-Alicia


On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:26 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Right, I think "whittle down" was the flashpoint, everyone appreciates
> the practice sessions and the effort to make this work
>
> JBH
>
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>
> On 2020-05-21 13:22, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Dan Fishman,
> >
> > Thank you for replying.
> >
> > This language:   "I'm sending a list to all the state chairs of the
> > delegates and alternates who aren't attending any of the practice
> > sessions so they can whittle down their final delegate lists."   Is
> > wrong.
> >
> > Nor, does that say "the spreadsheet makes delegation chairs aware and
> > allows the delegation chair to contact their group."
> >
> > Which you could have said.  The difference isn't an inartful phrasing,
> > but two different meanings.
> >
> > I also got a message last night from a different Region 3 delegate, who
> > said, and they quoted you:
> >
> > --------
> >
> > 'Fishman just mentioned to an alternate that chairs are "aggressively
> > kicking people out" and it's possible she'd be promoted to delegate
> >
> > In the training I'm in.'
> >
> > -----------
> >
> > So, what I'm getting is delegates complaining that the LP national ED
> > is
> > saying, or implying, that delegates are going to be, or are being,
> > 'whittled' or 'kicked' from their delegate spots.   This is not a good
> > look for LP national.  We work for the delegates.  Not the other way
> > around.   I know you're helping the delegates, and that work is much
> > appreciated.  The LP should've gone with some professional company,
> > instead of this DYI on Zoom.  I understand that you have your hands
> > full
> > in an effort to make it work.  I understand that you'll, "try to choose
> > words less ambiguously" in the future regarding our delegates.
> >
> > Regards,
> > EVH
> >
> > ---
> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >
> > On 2020-05-21 12:28, Daniel Fishman wrote:
> >
> >> I regret any confusion. The list is compiled based on the list of
> >> delegates and alternates and then removing the people who have signed
> >> into a zoom training session.
> >> Prior to that email we were under 35% attendance. It is true that
> >> people who attend with a different email address than the one we send
> >> the zoom got this email -- hence my statement "no one with this email
> >> address...." It's also true that many people are unaware when they
> >> sign into zoom with their work email.
> >>
> >> I absolutely want people to attend at least one practice session.
> >> Having done hundreds of tech rollouts, customer training is the
> >> critical aspect in determining success. I provided the spreadsheet,
> >> broken up by state, to all the state chairs so they could contact only
> >> those we saw at risk as having not been to a training and encourage
> >> them to get training. My comment at the end, perhaps inartfully
> >> phrased, was meant to indicate that that the spreadsheet makes
> >> delegation chairs aware and allows the delegation chair to contact
> >> their group.
> >>
> >> I am doing everything I can to ensure success of the convention, and
> >> the fewer people we have who are logging into zoom for the very first
> >> time on Friday, the more successful we will be.
> >>
> >> Obviously the lists are controlled by the delegation chairs, and I
> >> certainly regret that people felt threatened. I am operating at
> >> breakneck speed, and assumed everyone understood that only states and
> >> delegation chairs control the lists. I will try to choose words less
> >> ambiguously.
> >>
> >> Please encourage everyone who hasn't been to a zoom training yet to
> >> get to the one this afternoon.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Daniel Fishman
> >> Executive Director
> >> The Libertarian Party
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