[Lnc-business] Email from LP national ED-Not good message

[Whitney Bilyeu]

The list we submitted is not the same as what is being used by HQ.

Emails are being sent to email addresses that were NOT on the delegate list
we submitted.

On Thu, May 21, 2020, 11:28 AM Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I regret any confusion. The list is compiled based on the list of delegates
> and alternates and then removing the people who have signed into a zoom
> training session.
>  Prior to that email we were under 35% attendance. It is true that people
> who attend with a different email address than the one we send the zoom got
> this email -- hence my statement "no one with this email address...." It's
> also true that many people are unaware when they sign into zoom with their
> work email.
>
> I absolutely want people to attend at least one practice session. Having
> done hundreds of tech rollouts, customer training is the critical aspect in
> determining success. I provided the spreadsheet, broken up by state, to all
> the state chairs so they could contact only those we saw at risk as having
> not been to a training and encourage them to get training. My comment at
> the end, perhaps inartfully phrased, was meant to indicate that that the
> spreadsheet makes delegation chairs aware and allows the delegation chair
> to contact their group.
>
> I am doing everything I can to ensure success of the convention, and the
> fewer people we have who are logging into zoom for the very first time on
> Friday, the more successful we will be.
>
> Obviously the lists are controlled by the delegation chairs, and I
> certainly regret that people felt threatened. I am operating at breakneck
> speed, and assumed everyone understood that only states and delegation
> chairs control the lists. I will try to choose words less ambiguously.
>
> Please encourage everyone who hasn't been to a zoom training yet to get to
> the one this afternoon.
>
>
> ---
> Daniel Fishman
> Executive Director
> The Libertarian Party
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>
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:35 AM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > I appreciate your perspective Richard.  The Region 3 member was upset,
> > and felt threatened.  He also sent an email to Dan Fishman regarding
> > this, and never got a reply
> >
> > ---
> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >
> > On 2020-05-21 10:18, Richard Longstreth wrote:
> >
> > > I can speak from personal experience on that as well. My partner, Jake,
> > has attended two practice sessions from his account and responded to the
> > please verify your email address email and then received this message on
> > top of it. We confirmed his info with AZ and are very confused why he
> > received the you've not participated email. We took it as a hiccup but I
> > can totally understand how some members would be confused at this point.
> > The one thing that put our minds at ease was the email from Dan that said
> > he was registered and outlined Friday.
> > >
> > > Richard Longstreth
> > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> > > Libertarian National Committee
> > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
> > > 931.538.9300
> > >
> > > Sent from my Mobile Device
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 20, 2020, 16:46 Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm very unhappy to get an email from a Region 3 delegate who reports
> > >> receiving an email today from Dan Fishman, suggesting states might
> > >> 'whittle down' their delegate lists based upon participating in Zoom
> > >> practices.  This delegate reports they have attended all but one of
> the
> > >> prior "test sessions" held by Nick and the ED.  But, they got this
> email
> > >> today:
> > >>
> > >> ----------------
> > >>
> > >> "Dear XXXX ,
> > >>
> > >> According to my records, noone with this email address has signed
> into a
> > >> test zoom for the convention. We're only 48 hours away! Can you make
> > >> this
> > >> one? Come in, raise your hand, and leave -- easy cheesy!
> > >>
> > >> https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_SrGTqYInT0CGNEB0PAKTfw
> > >> <
> >
> http://0e49410910d226fd2a7eb6610dcfde12.tinyemails.com/d037e29d14b4a711afa8b14e39bf7e97/2ec6cf07e08e53d215ef3dc0d3199a9a.html
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I'm sending a list to all the state chairs of the delegates and
> > >> alternates
> > >> who aren't attending any of the practice sessions so they can whittle
> > >> down
> > >> their final delegate lists.
> > >>
> > >> Hope to see you soon!
> > >>
> > >> Dan"
> > >>
> > >> ------------------
> > >>
> > >> First, the email is information wrong, that delegate has attended Zoom
> > >> practices. Second, the implied threat of a "whittle down' from their
> > >> state delegate list is all kinds of wrong.  It is way out of bounds
> for
> > >> the LP national ED to say a list of those who didn't participate in
> Zoom
> > >> practices will be sent to state chairs "so they can whittle down their
> > >> final delegate lists."  It doesn't matter if a delegate has attended
> > >> ALL, SOME, or NONE of the Zoom practices.  This email was wrong to
> imply
> > >> that the delegate might be excluded for not attending Zoom practice.
> We
> > >> don't tell in-person delegates they'll be excluded if not learning the
> > >> convention methods in advance, and I'll be damned if I'm going to let
> > >> that happen to a delegate in Region 3 due to Zoom practices held by
> > >> national.  Some of us work hard to let members understand the value of
> > >> national.  This can erode that value fast.
> > >>
> > >> I hope this ill-advised email messaging is rectified.  As this isn't
> > >> helping our delegates, nor national.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you.
> > >> EVH
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Elizabeth Van Horn
> > >> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >
>