[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 200524-01: Authorize Signing of Orlando Contract

Mon May 25 12:47:01 EDT 2020

And here we go proposing another two week process after insisting the CoC
hurry up.

No wonder the members think we can’t anything done.

I support the current motion and urge others to do the same.

I would hope a 75% or so vote of delegates would be persuasive.

I’m done with the foot dragging.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 10:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> And Mr Longstreth you misread this motion.  It does not require immediate
> signing.  It merely transfers the authority now held by our chair to the
> officers.
>
> That is all.
>
> If you would like a reworded motion tell me the wording and I will make it.
>
> We have to stop finding roadblocks.  I respect concerns and let’s fix them.
>
> Give me your wording please.
>
> We cannot keep dragging this out.  The members are sick and tired of our
> inefficiency
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 10:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> No one is going to sign a dis favourable contract.
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:49 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I expect concerns to be addressed.  I’m sitting with the contract today
>>> and noting them for tonight.
>>>
>>> You or Mr O’Donnell are free to call me to make sure I have yours down
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:31 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I change my vote to no.
>>>>
>>>> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing
>>>> mountains
>>>> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies
>>>> noted
>>>> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read
>>>> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me
>>>> based
>>>> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to
>>>> do
>>>> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns
>>>> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back
>>>> to
>>>> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on
>>>> this
>>>> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where
>>>> we
>>>> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.
>>>>
>>>> Richard Longstreth
>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>> 931.538.9300
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business <
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I vote No
>>>> >
>>>> > At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this
>>>> > contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been
>>>> > recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention
>>>> that
>>>> > it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset
>>>> > about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an
>>>> issue
>>>> > because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a
>>>> final
>>>> > version yet.
>>>> >
>>>> > The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday
>>>> morning
>>>> > was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained
>>>> council,
>>>> > advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable
>>>> contract with
>>>> > regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.
>>>> >
>>>> > I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the
>>>> members
>>>> > of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story
>>>> > consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and
>>>> ready
>>>> > during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.
>>>> >
>>>> > I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable
>>>> review
>>>> > from our attorney, Mr. Hall.
>>>> >
>>>> > On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my
>>>> replacement
>>>> > electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to
>>>> > serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be
>>>> > displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members.
>>>> The
>>>> > last few months this board has been torn apart with childish
>>>> factionalism
>>>> > and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could
>>>> benefit
>>>> > from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization
>>>> that you
>>>> > dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every
>>>> > percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the
>>>> past
>>>> > few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to
>>>> > explain our conduct.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Justin O'Donnell
>>>> > LNC Region 8 Representative
>>>> >
>>>> > On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business <
>>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I vote Aye.
>>>> >
>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>> >
>>>> > Steven Nekhaila
>>>> > Region 2 Representative
>>>> > Libertarian National Committee
>>>> >
>>>> > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
>>>> > "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> > > I vote yes.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -Joshua
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>> > > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59
>>>> > >> pm
>>>> > >> Pacific time.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Co-Sponsors:  Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson,
>>>> > >> Merced,
>>>> > >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> =============================================
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando
>>>> > >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight
>>>> > >> Committee.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> =============================================
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsYtTmJdhE/edit#gid=1074776901
>>>> .
>>>> >
>>>> > >> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for
>>>> > >> verification. You
>>>> > >> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the
>>>> > >> bottom of
>>>> > >> the sheet.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> *  In Liberty,*
>>>> > >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>> > >> Syndrome
>>>> > >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>> > >> anyone
>>>> > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>> social
>>>> > >> faux
>>>> > >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
>>>> > >> know.  *
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
> --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *