[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 200524-01: Authorize Signing of Orlando Contract

Mon May 25 12:50:23 EDT 2020

Mr.Smith

I will not authorize a bad contract or one with concerns regardless of how
long people have been waiting. The contract needs to be tight and all
issues answered. To rush a contract is to commit suicide. Further the chair
did not say he would not sign to my memory but with all the teller stuff
going on, I may have misheard. He only indicated he would not chair in
Orlando. That is an important distinction

Ms. Harlos,

If that is the intent of the motion, it should not read so ambiguously. The
motion does not mention LNC approval first or if the contract would be
agreeable and only mentions that an officer sign the recommendation. I
cannot support that at this time. Perhaps more dialed in language would be
more favorable however, I also think we should follow our current rules and
at least present the contract to the chair to sign before expanding that
authority to others. Let's get a complete contract, present, then motion if
needed. This motion circumvents established policy without any standing to
do so outside of what is perceived will be the future actions of the chair.

Et all,

If Nick comes in here and says he also will not sign a contract, then I can
consider turning the signing authority over to another person. Right now we
need to focus on the contract and getting it right, not who will sign it.
The time for this is not ripe.

Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:32 Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> And Mr Longstreth you misread this motion.  It does not require immediate
> signing.  It merely transfers the authority now held by our chair to the
> officers.
>
> That is all.
>
> If you would like a reworded motion tell me the wording and I will make it.
>
> We have to stop finding roadblocks.  I respect concerns and let’s fix them.
>
> Give me your wording please.
>
> We cannot keep dragging this out.  The members are sick and tired of our
> inefficiency
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 10:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> No one is going to sign a dis favourable contract.
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:49 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I expect concerns to be addressed.  I’m sitting with the contract today
>>> and noting them for tonight.
>>>
>>> You or Mr O’Donnell are free to call me to make sure I have yours down
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:31 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I change my vote to no.
>>>>
>>>> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing
>>>> mountains
>>>> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies
>>>> noted
>>>> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read
>>>> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me
>>>> based
>>>> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to
>>>> do
>>>> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns
>>>> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back
>>>> to
>>>> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on
>>>> this
>>>> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where
>>>> we
>>>> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.
>>>>
>>>> Richard Longstreth
>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>> 931.538.9300
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business <
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I vote No
>>>> >
>>>> > At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this
>>>> > contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been
>>>> > recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention
>>>> that
>>>> > it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset
>>>> > about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an
>>>> issue
>>>> > because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a
>>>> final
>>>> > version yet.
>>>> >
>>>> > The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday
>>>> morning
>>>> > was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained
>>>> council,
>>>> > advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable
>>>> contract with
>>>> > regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.
>>>> >
>>>> > I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the
>>>> members
>>>> > of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story
>>>> > consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and
>>>> ready
>>>> > during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.
>>>> >
>>>> > I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable
>>>> review
>>>> > from our attorney, Mr. Hall.
>>>> >
>>>> > On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my
>>>> replacement
>>>> > electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to
>>>> > serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be
>>>> > displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members.
>>>> The
>>>> > last few months this board has been torn apart with childish
>>>> factionalism
>>>> > and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could
>>>> benefit
>>>> > from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization
>>>> that you
>>>> > dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every
>>>> > percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the
>>>> past
>>>> > few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to
>>>> > explain our conduct.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Justin O'Donnell
>>>> > LNC Region 8 Representative
>>>> >
>>>> > On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business <
>>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I vote Aye.
>>>> >
>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>> >
>>>> > Steven Nekhaila
>>>> > Region 2 Representative
>>>> > Libertarian National Committee
>>>> >
>>>> > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
>>>> > "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> > > I vote yes.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -Joshua
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>> > > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59
>>>> > >> pm
>>>> > >> Pacific time.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Co-Sponsors:  Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson,
>>>> > >> Merced,
>>>> > >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> =============================================
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando
>>>> > >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight
>>>> > >> Committee.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> =============================================
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsYtTmJdhE/edit#gid=1074776901
>>>> .
>>>> >
>>>> > >> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for
>>>> > >> verification. You
>>>> > >> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the
>>>> > >> bottom of
>>>> > >> the sheet.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> *  In Liberty,*
>>>> > >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>> > >> Syndrome
>>>> > >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>> > >> anyone
>>>> > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>> social
>>>> > >> faux
>>>> > >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
>>>> > >> know.  *
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>
>> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>