[Lnc-business] [COC 2018-20] Forwarding a message for Ms. Ryan

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Was this in Daniel’s zoom room or yours?

And correction, no, the committee is not at the service of the LNC through
the chairman- it is at the service of the LNC period.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:22 AM BetteRose <betterose at aol.com> wrote:

> I don't think Daniel recorded his meetings; you need to ask him.  I am new
> to this so I don't know if there is a way to record them.
>
> I may have said ordered, I don't remember what word was used but the "ask"
> by the Chair was simply to bring up the issue as he wanted input from the
> committee. He did not demand anything nor did he demand an answer. To me an
> "ask" by a boss is an order. I remind you the committee is at the service
> of the LNC through the Chairman.
>
> Now please let us get our work done.
>
> BetteRose Ryan
> Publisher
> Bent Briar Publishing <http://www.bentbriarbooks.com/>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Goldstein via Conventions <conventions at hq.lp.org>
> To: Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>; conventions at hq.lp.org
> Cc: Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>; Libertarian National Committee
> list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> Sent: Thu, Jun 4, 2020 9:00 am
> Subject: Re: [COC 2018-20] [Lnc-business] Forwarding a message for Ms. Ryan
>
> You would have to ask Ms. Ryan.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> Libertarian National Committee
> Convention Oversight Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
> On 2020-06-04 10:47, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> Mr. Goldstein, is there a recording of the CoC meeting?
>
> *In Liberty,*
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:10 AM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Ms. Ryan is somewhat inaccurate in her recollections of our last
> meeting.  She specifically said that she was reluctant to bring up the
> questionable vacancy on the COC but had been ordered by the Chair to do
> so.  The majority of the COC then brought up the fact that there are
> currently two motions pending before the LNC on this matter and we would
> wait until those are resolved before making any recommendations.
>
> This constant interference in the workings of the COC is getting old and
> needs to stop.  We are doing over a years work in less than 5 weeks and
> need to concentrate our efforts on a great convention experience for all
> attendees.
>
> Live Free,
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> Libertarian National Committee
> Convention Oversight Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
> On 2020-06-04 10:01, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Apparently the Chair of the Convention Oversight Committee responded to
> > a
> > number of LNC members about representations that were made by certain
> > LNC
> > members. Ms. Ryan had requested that her response be shared with the
> > business list, but her Regional Representative did not do so.
> >
> > Her response is below:
> > ***
> > "Can you post this for me? If there are things in it that you feel
> > shouldn't be on the thread, go ahead and remove it - that is except for
> > the
> > first sentence.  Robert sent me a note asking about this same issue but
> > I
> > think may answer didn't fit the narrative as I didn't see it post.  The
> > committee refuses to recommend someone, even Daniel because that will
> > prove
> > there is a vacancy.  I need to get back to work but thank you for
> > everything.
> >
> >
> > I, Ms. Ryan was never bullied by the Chairman. He asked me to call for
> > a
> > vote last weekend but the committee had other things on our plate. I
> > brought it up as the last order of business and said Mr. Sarwark would
> > like
> > a vote of the committee. I did say I serve at the pleasure of the Chair
> > because I do.
> >
> > Someone motioned that we table the question although there was no
> > motion
> > made to table.  Besides we rule by consensus. rarely taking a "vote".
> > I
> > said I was fine telling the Chairman that there was no recommendation
> > from
> > the committee at this time.
> >
> > I do feel the Chairman was correct in his request and his reading of
> > the
> > policy manual.  The Chairman has the right to unilaterally seat and
> > therefore the right to remove the non-LNC members of the committee.
> > Therefore there is a vacancy on the committee, which the members of the
> > committee refused to accept.
> >
> > Changing the policy manual is up to the LNC but I caution doing that in
> > the
> > heat of a controversy."
> > ***
> >
> > Yours in liberty,
> > Nick
>
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*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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