[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 200603-01: Change authority to cancel Orlando contract

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Here are my thoughts and what I intend to do.  This motion is not out of
order and Ms. Mattson noted correctly a pattern of behaviour.  And I fully
believe that if we start one on a policy manual change the chair will then
try to claim it can't apply to existing contracts though it certainly can.
I encourage people to vote on this ballot and on a policy manual change
that I am going to workshop with people off list.

If at the end the chair rules this one out of order still, I will appeal
the ruling of the chair.  It is unfortunate that our chair is making things
so tedious but if that is the game we are forced to play, I will do for the
good of the Party

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *



On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Agreed Ms Adams,
>
> which is what I thought we had been discussing, and admittedly did not
> check closely when it popped up amongst being bombarded by the latest email
> form blast.
>
> I would change my vote but I believe it is moot at this point as I
> understand corrected language is being worked on.
>
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> On Jun 4, 2020 2:31 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> If a motion like this is going to be moved it should be in my opinion
> moved as a policy manual change that affects all contracts of a similar
> nature moving forward. If it's good policy, and I believe that it is, then
> it should Simply Be Good policy and not a one-time usage clause
>
> Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
>
> On Jun 4, 2020 1:43 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt to
> declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order."  This motion has been
> on
> the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting
> was underway to say anything.  His ruling is neither correct nor timely,
> and it's just obstructionism.  He will play us all the way to Orlando if
> we
> let him, so let's continue the vote.
>
> I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted
> ruling.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > This motion is out of order.
> >
> > A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already
> > executed contract.
> >
> > A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order.  A motion to
> > rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the
> > sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any
> > circumstance would be in order.
> >
> > But this motion is not.
> >
> > Yours truly,
> > Nick
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > We have an electronic mail ballot.
> > >
> > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59
> pm
> > > Pacific time.
> > >
> > > Co-Sponsors:  Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
> > >
> > > =============================================
> > >
> > >
> > > Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with
> Rosen
> > > Shingle
> > >
> > > Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by
> a
> > >
> > > majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
> > >
> > > =============================================
> > >
> > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
> > >
> > >
> > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsYtTmJdhE/edit#gid=1318840768
> > > Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for
> verification.
> > You
> > > can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom
> of
> > > the sheet.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> > >
> > > *  In Liberty,*
> > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> anyone
> > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> faux
> > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
> *
> > >
> >
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