[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 200603-01: Change authority to cancel Orlando contract

[Nicholas Sarwark]

Dear Ms. Harlos,

If there is something that leads you to believe you have the authority to
make parliamentary rulings without a vote of the body, I'm very interested
in reading it.

Yours truly,
Nick

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:16 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Here are my thoughts and what I intend to do.  This motion is not out of
> order and Ms. Mattson noted correctly a pattern of behaviour.  And I fully
> believe that if we start one on a policy manual change the chair will then
> try to claim it can't apply to existing contracts though it certainly can.
> I encourage people to vote on this ballot and on a policy manual change
> that I am going to workshop with people off list.
>
> If at the end the chair rules this one out of order still, I will appeal
> the ruling of the chair.  It is unfortunate that our chair is making things
> so tedious but if that is the game we are forced to play, I will do for the
> good of the Party
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > Agreed Ms Adams,
> >
> > which is what I thought we had been discussing, and admittedly did not
> > check closely when it popped up amongst being bombarded by the latest
> email
> > form blast.
> >
> > I would change my vote but I believe it is moot at this point as I
> > understand corrected language is being worked on.
> >
> > John Phillips
> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2020 2:31 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > If a motion like this is going to be moved it should be in my opinion
> > moved as a policy manual change that affects all contracts of a similar
> > nature moving forward. If it's good policy, and I believe that it is,
> then
> > it should Simply Be Good policy and not a one-time usage clause
> >
> > Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2020 1:43 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt
> to
> > declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order."  This motion has been
> > on
> > the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting
> > was underway to say anything.  His ruling is neither correct nor timely,
> > and it's just obstructionism.  He will play us all the way to Orlando if
> > we
> > let him, so let's continue the vote.
> >
> > I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted
> > ruling.
> >
> > -Alicia
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > This motion is out of order.
> > >
> > > A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already
> > > executed contract.
> > >
> > > A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order.  A motion to
> > > rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the
> > > sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under
> any
> > > circumstance would be in order.
> > >
> > > But this motion is not.
> > >
> > > Yours truly,
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We have an electronic mail ballot.
> > > >
> > > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59
> > pm
> > > > Pacific time.
> > > >
> > > > Co-Sponsors:  Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
> > > >
> > > > =============================================
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with
> > Rosen
> > > > Shingle
> > > >
> > > > Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by
> > a
> > > >
> > > > majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
> > > >
> > > > =============================================
> > > >
> > > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsYtTmJdhE/edit#gid=1318840768
> > > > Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for
> > verification.
> > > You
> > > > can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the
> bottom
> > of
> > > > the sheet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> > > >
> > > > *  In Liberty,*
> > > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > anyone
> > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> > faux
> > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
> > *
> > > >
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