[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 200606-1 AMEND POLICY MANUAL 2.04.3

[Elizabeth Van Horn]

I'd appreciate it if the LNC Secretary would stop replying with
arguments against other LNC member's votes, and statements, in ballot
threads.  If arguments need to be made, create another thread.  

Thank you. 

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Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)

On 2020-06-07 17:41, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

> IN LIBERTY, 
> 
> Mr. Hall has insisted he is not general counsel but special counsel.  And he has previously said he does not approve but advise.   
> 
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:40 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote: 
> 
> I was using the language from our LNC Policy Manual section 2.04,  were it says:
> 
> "All contracts of more than one (1) year in duration or for more than $25,000 shall be reviewed and approved by General Counsel..."  
> 
> The words "General Counsel" are also used elsewhere in the same policy manual section.  So, yes, we do have general counsel.  
> 
> Yes, the General Counsel we do have does approve.  You don't like that, so are trying to change it, but that is the situation we have.
> 
> One doesn't need to be elected to the LNC to make decisions.  The LNC empowers other committees, staff, contractors, and our legal counsel to make decisions.  That's what a smart board does. 
> 
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> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY) 
> 
> On 2020-06-07 16:53, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote: 
> We do not have general counsel and counsel we do have does not approve, nor should they.  They are not elected to make decisions.
> 
> IN LIBERTY, 
> 
> _ _ 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:40 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote: I vote No.
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> 
> Because I think the LNC would be shirking it's fiduciary duty to remove 
> the "and approved" by General Counsel.
> 
> The LNC pays for sound legal counsel. Our legal counsel gives an 
> independent opinion of approval, that is outside of the internal LP 
> politics. I think it's important that we keep that method.
> 
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> 
> On 2020-06-07 02:13, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>> 
>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JUNE 13 2020 at 11:59:59 pm
>> Pacific time.
>> 
>> Co-Sponsors:  Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips, Smith
>> 
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>> 
>> Motion: Amend Policy Manual 2.04.3 as per the attached.
>> 
>> =============================================
>> 
>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
>> 
>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsYtTmJdhE/edit#gid=1549468988.
>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. 
>> You
>> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom 
>> of
>> the sheet.
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