[Lnc-business] Request for sponsors - appeal of ruling of chair that Email ballot 200603-01 is out of order

[Tim Hagan]

I was talking about the possiblility in the general case, not this
particular case. If we think it could be a problem with the general
case, we or the next LNC could look at revising the policy for e-mail
ballots. Or leave it alone since the Chair ruling an e-mail motion out
of order rarely happens. 

---
Tim Hagan
Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee 

On 2020-06-12 10:38, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

> correction - at least two days.
> 
> IN LIBERTY, 
> 
> __ 
> _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _ 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote: 
> Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot started.  This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
> 
> IN LIBERTY, 
> 
> __ 
> _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _ 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states 
> and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where 
> co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or 
> co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for 
> voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
> 
> ---
> Tim Hagan
> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> 
> On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>> How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after
>> voting on it has begun?
>> 
>> ---
>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> Convention Oversight Committee
>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>> 
>> On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract.
>>> Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order.  Voting concluded with a 
>>> count
>>> of 13-0-4.
>>> 
>>> I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so 
>>> that
>>> said motion would pass.
>>> 
>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If 
>>> anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social 
>>> faux
>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  
>>> *