[Lnc-business] Request for sponsors - appeal of ruling of chair that Email ballot 200603-01 is out of order

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

While it rarely happens it causes confusion (it happens in committees too)
so a policy would be helpful IMHO

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *



On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:54 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I was talking about the possiblility in the general case, not this
> particular case. If we think it could be a problem with the general
> case, we or the next LNC could look at revising the policy for e-mail
> ballots. Or leave it alone since the Chair ruling an e-mail motion out
> of order rarely happens.
>
> ---
> Tim Hagan
> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>
> On 2020-06-12 10:38, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> > correction - at least two days.
> >
> > IN LIBERTY,
> >
> > __
> > _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> > Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot
> started.  This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was
> two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the
> chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
> >
> > IN LIBERTY,
> >
> > __
> > _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: With our e-mail ballot procedure, the
> Secretary, not the Chair, states
> > and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where
> > co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or
> > co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for
> > voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
> >
> > ---
> > Tim Hagan
> > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >
> > On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after
> >> voting on it has begun?
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> >> Libertarian National Committee
> >> Convention Oversight Committee
> >> 317-850-0726 Cell
> >>
> >> On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>> We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract.
> >>> Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order.  Voting concluded with a
> >>> count
> >>> of 13-0-4.
> >>>
> >>> I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so
> >>> that
> >>> said motion would pass.
> >>>
> >>> *  In Liberty,*
> >>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> >>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >>> anyone
> >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >>> faux
> >>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
> >>> *
>