[Lnc-business] Request for sponsors - appeal of ruling of chair that Email ballot 200603-01 is out of order

[Alicia Mattson]

I will co-sponsor an appeal of the ruling.  It was a pretty silly ruling
that most of us didn't take very seriously, but let's not leave the
argument hanging unaddressed.

-Alicia


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:40 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> While it rarely happens it causes confusion (it happens in committees too)
> so a policy would be helpful IMHO
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:54 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > I was talking about the possiblility in the general case, not this
> > particular case. If we think it could be a problem with the general
> > case, we or the next LNC could look at revising the policy for e-mail
> > ballots. Or leave it alone since the Chair ruling an e-mail motion out
> > of order rarely happens.
> >
> > ---
> > Tim Hagan
> > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >
> > On 2020-06-12 10:38, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >
> > > correction - at least two days.
> > >
> > > IN LIBERTY,
> > >
> > > __
> > > _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> > caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> > > Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot
> > started.  This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was
> > two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the
> > chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
> > >
> > > IN LIBERTY,
> > >
> > > __
> > > _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: With our e-mail ballot procedure, the
> > Secretary, not the Chair, states
> > > and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where
> > > co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or
> > > co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible
> for
> > > voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Tim Hagan
> > > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> > >
> > > On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
> > >> How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after
> > >> voting on it has begun?
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> > >> Libertarian National Committee
> > >> Convention Oversight Committee
> > >> 317-850-0726 Cell
> > >>
> > >> On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > >>> We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract.
> > >>> Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order.  Voting concluded with a
> > >>> count
> > >>> of 13-0-4.
> > >>>
> > >>> I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so
> > >>> that
> > >>> said motion would pass.
> > >>>
> > >>> *  In Liberty,*
> > >>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> > >>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > >>> anyone
> > >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> > >>> faux
> > >>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
> > >>> *
> >
>