[Lnc-business] Request for sponsors - appeal of ruling of chair that Email ballot 200603-01 is out of order

[Sam Goldstein]

I consider this to be a waste of the LNC's time since the motion in this 
case was passed overwhelmingly but if we have to
take this action then I'll co-sponsor the motion to overturn the very 
belated ruling of the Chair.

---
Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
Libertarian National Committee
Convention Oversight Committee
317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-06-12 21:18, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
> I will co-sponsor an appeal of the ruling.  It was a pretty silly 
> ruling
> that most of us didn't take very seriously, but let's not leave the
> argument hanging unaddressed.
> 
> -Alicia
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:40 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> While it rarely happens it causes confusion (it happens in committees 
>> too)
>> so a policy would be helpful IMHO
>> 
>> *In Liberty,*
>> 
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If 
>> anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social 
>> faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:54 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > I was talking about the possiblility in the general case, not this
>> > particular case. If we think it could be a problem with the general
>> > case, we or the next LNC could look at revising the policy for e-mail
>> > ballots. Or leave it alone since the Chair ruling an e-mail motion out
>> > of order rarely happens.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Tim Hagan
>> > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>> >
>> > On 2020-06-12 10:38, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>> >
>> > > correction - at least two days.
>> > >
>> > > IN LIBERTY,
>> > >
>> > > __
>> > > _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> > caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> > > Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot
>> > started.  This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was
>> > two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the
>> > chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
>> > >
>> > > IN LIBERTY,
>> > >
>> > > __
>> > > _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
>> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: With our e-mail ballot procedure, the
>> > Secretary, not the Chair, states
>> > > and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where
>> > > co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or
>> > > co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible
>> for
>> > > voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
>> > >
>> > > ---
>> > > Tim Hagan
>> > > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>> > >
>> > > On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > >> How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after
>> > >> voting on it has begun?
>> > >>
>> > >> ---
>> > >> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
>> > >> Libertarian National Committee
>> > >> Convention Oversight Committee
>> > >> 317-850-0726 Cell
>> > >>
>> > >> On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > >>> We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract.
>> > >>> Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order.  Voting concluded with a
>> > >>> count
>> > >>> of 13-0-4.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so
>> > >>> that
>> > >>> said motion would pass.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> *  In Liberty,*
>> > >>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>> Syndrome
>> > >>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>> > >>> anyone
>> > >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> > >>> faux
>> > >>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
>> > >>> *
>> >
>>