[Lnc-business] Convention Change of Venues

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

It is what I suggested Mr Bishop-Henchman in off list discussions with Mr
Phillips

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:34 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> John, I will support that proposal.
>
> JBH
>
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>
> On 2020-06-30 09:50, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Given everything else going on both on Florida and around the country,
> > as well as that apparently the convention center they want to put us
> > in is one of their Covid testing locations, (despite my online jokes
> > about this maybe being a feature not a flaw) we need to seriously
> > consider this as a time to make the decision to punt.
> >
> > I am polling my state chairs/officers group right now, but my
> > inclination would be to move to not accept this change and cancel an
> > in person convention, moving elections online, with platform and
> > bylaws either being straight up down votes, or over some sort of
> > extended time frame after elections are over with email balloting (not
> > partial to that, but it is a possible thing).
> >
> > John Phillips
> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >
> > On Jun 30, 2020 7:43 AM, "Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> > Lnc-business" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> 100% this “ Debate, vote, accept, work to make a success.”
> >> 👏👏👏
> >>
> >> Alex Merced
> >> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >>
> >>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> If the in person does not go forward, I do hope we decide to have
> >> an electronic convention on the same days as people have already
> >> arranged for time off work.
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:53 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>> If the CoC had said they did not wish to do the work necessary I
> >> would agree.  They have not, quite the contrary.  I think it would
> >> be disrespectful of everything they have done not to let them try.
> >> (As well as to the delegates who want to go)
> >>>>
> >>>> From what I understand all the same safety precautions and room
> >> needed is accommodated.
> >>>>
> >>>> What this does is a second bite at the apple for those who have
> >> always opposed.  There may be other reasons to change one’s mind
> >> (conditions in Florida for example) but this shift isn’t anything
> >> major.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything in the compromise still holds true and the principle
> >> of respecting everyone’s choice does as well.  Cancelling while it
> >> is still possible forecloses the choice of those who want to go.  I
> >> think we can honor all choices.
> >>>>
> >>>> That said, we are a deliberative body, and no matter what the
> >> decision is, I hope everyone respects it and does not work to sow
> >> sour grapes or undermine as we have seen already over this whole
> >> thing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Debate, vote, accept, work to make a success.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:15 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> >> Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Will the OCCC have all the same precautions that the Rosen
> >> promised As far safety (its not just size of the rooms).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’ve generally been in support of the compromise because it
> >> was visible that there was no way the party as a whole could move in
> >> either direction without causing major schisms but this does raise
> >> many concerns.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Even if rooms reservations are moved and a larger main hall is
> >> attained the amount of planning for the space such as tables and
> >> breakout rooms, Gala planning etc. that would need to be revisited
> >> seems like a cruel thing to ask the CoC to revisit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - I have seen annecdotally noticed several supporters of live
> >> convention change their mind not to go not cause their view had
> >> changed but due to the pressure from family and those around them.
> >> While I intend to be their if it happens, I have also seen similar
> >> levels of pressure from my loved ones.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - The Rosen was quite adamant about having us and was quite sure
> >> they would be open that weekend what assurance we have that the OCCC
> >> will not do the same in the next week and half (I know you can’t
> >> control the future but at this point, but there comes a point where
> >> you can only fight these headwinds so much).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Considering the amount of logistics and timing that is now
> >> reshuffled, the changing health environment I think that we can
> >> safely invoke impossibility/impracticality for the second sitting if
> >> we chose to. I don’t know if this is something we are voting on,
> >> or If this ship has sailed but if it comes to a vote that is how I
> >> will vote based on current circumstances.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do have nothing but gratitude for the efforts of the CoC to
> >> move mountains in replanning a convention in 6 weeks and don’t
> >> wish them the burden of replanning this in two weeks in a venue
> >> without the kind of vetting that was given to the Rosen in a
> >> fraction of the time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the event does happen, I plan on being there but this is
> >> where my heart is at with the hearing of this new information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alex Merced
> >>>>> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 4:19 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> >> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We need to see an addendum or whatever sooner rather than
> >> later.  The two
> >>>>>> "sides" are eating each other's faces once again on facebook,
> >> and I have
> >>>>>> died inside over it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> People can disagree in good faith.  No matter what happens now
> >> or whenever,
> >>>>>> I believe it is our job to accept whatever decision we
> >> collectively make
> >>>>>> whether we personally agree or not and work to make whatever
> >> that is a
> >>>>>> success.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is what I intend to do.  I am convinced that the "all or
> >> nothing"
> >>>>>> spectrums on both sides are seriously damaging our party.
> >> There is no
> >>>>>> parity.  My position:  I want everyone to get their way.
> >> Those who wish to
> >>>>>> attend in person and those who wish to attend remotely, and
> >> that is how I
> >>>>>> will vote on this body and if necessary at any in-person
> >> convention.  I
> >>>>>> respect all choices and that people have good faith reasons
> >> for holding
> >>>>>> them.  We would all be better off if we all did that IMHO.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *In Liberty,*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome
> >>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >>
> >>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> >> If anyone
> >>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> >> social faux
> >>>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:44 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> >>
> >>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mr. Goldstein is likely already asleep at this late hour, so
> >> I'm
> >>>>>>> forwarding his message for the LNC members who were not at
> >> Monday's COC
> >>>>>>> meeting.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Convention Update - Next to last one!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Friday, June 26th the COC was notified by Rosen Properties
> >> that their
> >>>>>>> Shingle Creek property was not going to open until September.
> >> This meant
> >>>>>>> that our National Convention was in jeopardy and we were in
> >> shock.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> During that initial discussion we were told that their Rosen
> >> Center
> >>>>>>> property had never closed and they proposed moving our
> >> convention to
> >>>>>>> that venue and the adjoining Orange County Convention Center.
> >> As of
> >>>>>>> today we are in possession of an outline of how that will
> >> happen and
> >>>>>>> hope to have a contract addendum ready for the LNC's approval
> >> within a
> >>>>>>> couple days. There will be no additional costs to the
> >> Libertarian Party
> >>>>>>> for this change in venue, all added costs for the Convention
> >> Center will
> >>>>>>> be taken care of by Rosen Properties. We will actually have a
> >> larger
> >>>>>>> main hall at 93k sq ft and more room for exhibits and
> >> breakouts.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All room reservations made for Shingle Creek will be moved to
> >> an
> >>>>>>> equivalent room at the Rosen Center (which was the location
> >> of our 2016
> >>>>>>> National Convention). You need not contact the hotel to
> >> change your
> >>>>>>> reservation. Also, all suite upgrades and hospitality rooms
> >> will also
> >>>>>>> have similar settings
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The COC also voted tonight to approve an addendum to the
> >> contract with
> >>>>>>> AV Group that will provide a remote convention site for NY,
> >> NJ and CT
> >>>>>>> delegates at Syracuse, NY based on discussions with the three
> >> state
> >>>>>>> chairs. This is an option we have been working on for almost
> >> two months
> >>>>>>> and had a hard deadline of today to proceed. We did with with
> >> no surety
> >>>>>>> that the delegates at Orlando will authorize remote
> >> participation but
> >>>>>>> with the faith that they will for delegates that cannot
> >> travel due to
> >>>>>>> government constraints.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We are still planning to have a great convention at Orlando
> >> next week
> >>>>>>> and look forward to seeing many of you there.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Live Free,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Tim Hagan
> >>>>>>> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>
> >>>> Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
> >> inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic
> >> arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting
> >> (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let
> >> me know.
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> In Liberty,
> >>>
> >>> Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
> >> inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic
> >> arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting
> >> (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let
> >> me know.
> >>>
> >
> > On Jun 30, 2020 7:43 AM, "Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> > Lnc-business" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> 100% this “ Debate, vote, accept, work to make a success.”
> >> 👏👏👏
> >>
> >> Alex Merced
> >> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >>
> >>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> If the in person does not go forward, I do hope we decide to have
> >> an electronic convention on the same days as people have already
> >> arranged for time off work.
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:53 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>> If the CoC had said they did not wish to do the work necessary I
> >> would agree.  They have not, quite the contrary.  I think it would
> >> be disrespectful of everything they have done not to let them try.
> >> (As well as to the delegates who want to go)
> >>>>
> >>>> From what I understand all the same safety precautions and room
> >> needed is accommodated.
> >>>>
> >>>> What this does is a second bite at the apple for those who have
> >> always opposed.  There may be other reasons to change one’s mind
> >> (conditions in Florida for example) but this shift isn’t anything
> >> major.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything in the compromise still holds true and the principle
> >> of respecting everyone’s choice does as well.  Cancelling while it
> >> is still possible forecloses the choice of those who want to go.  I
> >> think we can honor all choices.
> >>>>
> >>>> That said, we are a deliberative body, and no matter what the
> >> decision is, I hope everyone respects it and does not work to sow
> >> sour grapes or undermine as we have seen already over this whole
> >> thing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Debate, vote, accept, work to make a success.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:15 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> >> Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Will the OCCC have all the same precautions that the Rosen
> >> promised As far safety (its not just size of the rooms).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’ve generally been in support of the compromise because it
> >> was visible that there was no way the party as a whole could move in
> >> either direction without causing major schisms but this does raise
> >> many concerns.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Even if rooms reservations are moved and a larger main hall is
> >> attained the amount of planning for the space such as tables and
> >> breakout rooms, Gala planning etc. that would need to be revisited
> >> seems like a cruel thing to ask the CoC to revisit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - I have seen annecdotally noticed several supporters of live
> >> convention change their mind not to go not cause their view had
> >> changed but due to the pressure from family and those around them.
> >> While I intend to be their if it happens, I have also seen similar
> >> levels of pressure from my loved ones.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - The Rosen was quite adamant about having us and was quite sure
> >> they would be open that weekend what assurance we have that the OCCC
> >> will not do the same in the next week and half (I know you can’t
> >> control the future but at this point, but there comes a point where
> >> you can only fight these headwinds so much).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Considering the amount of logistics and timing that is now
> >> reshuffled, the changing health environment I think that we can
> >> safely invoke impossibility/impracticality for the second sitting if
> >> we chose to. I don’t know if this is something we are voting on,
> >> or If this ship has sailed but if it comes to a vote that is how I
> >> will vote based on current circumstances.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do have nothing but gratitude for the efforts of the CoC to
> >> move mountains in replanning a convention in 6 weeks and don’t
> >> wish them the burden of replanning this in two weeks in a venue
> >> without the kind of vetting that was given to the Rosen in a
> >> fraction of the time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the event does happen, I plan on being there but this is
> >> where my heart is at with the hearing of this new information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alex Merced
> >>>>> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 4:19 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> >> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We need to see an addendum or whatever sooner rather than
> >> later.  The two
> >>>>>> "sides" are eating each other's faces once again on facebook,
> >> and I have
> >>>>>> died inside over it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> People can disagree in good faith.  No matter what happens now
> >> or whenever,
> >>>>>> I believe it is our job to accept whatever decision we
> >> collectively make
> >>>>>> whether we personally agree or not and work to make whatever
> >> that is a
> >>>>>> success.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is what I intend to do.  I am convinced that the "all or
> >> nothing"
> >>>>>> spectrums on both sides are seriously damaging our party.
> >> There is no
> >>>>>> parity.  My position:  I want everyone to get their way.
> >> Those who wish to
> >>>>>> attend in person and those who wish to attend remotely, and
> >> that is how I
> >>>>>> will vote on this body and if necessary at any in-person
> >> convention.  I
> >>>>>> respect all choices and that people have good faith reasons
> >> for holding
> >>>>>> them.  We would all be better off if we all did that IMHO.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *In Liberty,*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome
> >>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >>
> >>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> >> If anyone
> >>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> >> social faux
> >>>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:44 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> >>
> >>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mr. Goldstein is likely already asleep at this late hour, so
> >> I'm
> >>>>>>> forwarding his message for the LNC members who were not at
> >> Monday's COC
> >>>>>>> meeting.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Convention Update - Next to last one!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Friday, June 26th the COC was notified by Rosen Properties
> >> that their
> >>>>>>> Shingle Creek property was not going to open until September.
> >> This meant
> >>>>>>> that our National Convention was in jeopardy and we were in
> >> shock.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> During that initial discussion we were told that their Rosen
> >> Center
> >>>>>>> property had never closed and they proposed moving our
> >> convention to
> >>>>>>> that venue and the adjoining Orange County Convention Center.
> >> As of
> >>>>>>> today we are in possession of an outline of how that will
> >> happen and
> >>>>>>> hope to have a contract addendum ready for the LNC's approval
> >> within a
> >>>>>>> couple days. There will be no additional costs to the
> >> Libertarian Party
> >>>>>>> for this change in venue, all added costs for the Convention
> >> Center will
> >>>>>>> be taken care of by Rosen Properties. We will actually have a
> >> larger
> >>>>>>> main hall at 93k sq ft and more room for exhibits and
> >> breakouts.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All room reservations made for Shingle Creek will be moved to
> >> an
> >>>>>>> equivalent room at the Rosen Center (which was the location
> >> of our 2016
> >>>>>>> National Convention). You need not contact the hotel to
> >> change your
> >>>>>>> reservation. Also, all suite upgrades and hospitality rooms
> >> will also
> >>>>>>> have similar settings
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The COC also voted tonight to approve an addendum to the
> >> contract with
> >>>>>>> AV Group that will provide a remote convention site for NY,
> >> NJ and CT
> >>>>>>> delegates at Syracuse, NY based on discussions with the three
> >> state
> >>>>>>> chairs. This is an option we have been working on for almost
> >> two months
> >>>>>>> and had a hard deadline of today to proceed. We did with with
> >> no surety
> >>>>>>> that the delegates at Orlando will authorize remote
> >> participation but
> >>>>>>> with the faith that they will for delegates that cannot
> >> travel due to
> >>>>>>> government constraints.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We are still planning to have a great convention at Orlando
> >> next week
> >>>>>>> and look forward to seeing many of you there.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Live Free,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Tim Hagan
> >>>>>>> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>
> >>>> Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
> >> inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic
> >> arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting
> >> (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let
> >> me know.
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> In Liberty,
> >>>
> >>> Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
> >> inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic
> >> arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting
> >> (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let
> >> me know.
> >>>
> >
> > On Jun 30, 2020 7:43 AM, "Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> > Lnc-business" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> 100% this " Debate, vote, accept, work to make a success."
> >> 👏👏👏
> >>
> >> Alex Merced
> >> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >>
> >>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> If the in person does not go forward, I do hope we decide to have
> >> an electronic convention on the same days as people have already
> >> arranged for time off work.
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:53 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>> If the CoC had said they did not wish to do the work necessary I
> >> would agree.  They have not, quite the contrary.  I think it would
> >> be disrespectful of everything they have done not to let them try.
> >> (As well as to the delegates who want to go)
> >>>>
> >>>> From what I understand all the same safety precautions and room
> >> needed is accommodated.
> >>>>
> >>>> What this does is a second bite at the apple for those who have
> >> always opposed.  There may be other reasons to change one's mind
> >> (conditions in Florida for example) but this shift isn't anything
> >> major.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything in the compromise still holds true and the principle
> >> of respecting everyone's choice does as well.  Cancelling while it
> >> is still possible forecloses the choice of those who want to go.  I
> >> think we can honor all choices.
> >>>>
> >>>> That said, we are a deliberative body, and no matter what the
> >> decision is, I hope everyone respects it and does not work to sow
> >> sour grapes or undermine as we have seen already over this whole
> >> thing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Debate, vote, accept, work to make a success.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:15 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> >> Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Will the OCCC have all the same precautions that the Rosen
> >> promised As far safety (its not just size of the rooms).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've generally been in support of the compromise because it was
> >> visible that there was no way the party as a whole could move in
> >> either direction without causing major schisms but this does raise
> >> many concerns.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Even if rooms reservations are moved and a larger main hall is
> >> attained the amount of planning for the space such as tables and
> >> breakout rooms, Gala planning etc. that would need to be revisited
> >> seems like a cruel thing to ask the CoC to revisit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - I have seen annecdotally noticed several supporters of live
> >> convention change their mind not to go not cause their view had
> >> changed but due to the pressure from family and those around them.
> >> While I intend to be their if it happens, I have also seen similar
> >> levels of pressure from my loved ones.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - The Rosen was quite adamant about having us and was quite sure
> >> they would be open that weekend what assurance we have that the OCCC
> >> will not do the same in the next week and half (I know you can't
> >> control the future but at this point, but there comes a point where
> >> you can only fight these headwinds so much).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Considering the amount of logistics and timing that is now
> >> reshuffled, the changing health environment I think that we can
> >> safely invoke impossibility/impracticality for the second sitting if
> >> we chose to. I don't know if this is something we are voting on, or
> >> If this ship has sailed but if it comes to a vote that is how I will
> >> vote based on current circumstances.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do have nothing but gratitude for the efforts of the CoC to
> >> move mountains in replanning a convention in 6 weeks and don't wish
> >> them the burden of replanning this in two weeks in a venue without
> >> the kind of vetting that was given to the Rosen in a fraction of the
> >> time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the event does happen, I plan on being there but this is
> >> where my heart is at with the hearing of this new information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alex Merced
> >>>>> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 4:19 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> >> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We need to see an addendum or whatever sooner rather than
> >> later.  The two
> >>>>>> "sides" are eating each other's faces once again on facebook,
> >> and I have
> >>>>>> died inside over it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> People can disagree in good faith.  No matter what happens now
> >> or whenever,
> >>>>>> I believe it is our job to accept whatever decision we
> >> collectively make
> >>>>>> whether we personally agree or not and work to make whatever
> >> that is a
> >>>>>> success.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is what I intend to do.  I am convinced that the "all or
> >> nothing"
> >>>>>> spectrums on both sides are seriously damaging our party.
> >> There is no
> >>>>>> parity.  My position:  I want everyone to get their way.
> >> Those who wish to
> >>>>>> attend in person and those who wish to attend remotely, and
> >> that is how I
> >>>>>> will vote on this body and if necessary at any in-person
> >> convention.  I
> >>>>>> respect all choices and that people have good faith reasons
> >> for holding
> >>>>>> them.  We would all be better off if we all did that IMHO.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *In Liberty,*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome
> >>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
> >> inter-personal
> >>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> >> If anyone
> >>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> >> social faux
> >>>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:44 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business
> >> <
> >>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mr. Goldstein is likely already asleep at this late hour, so
> >> I'm
> >>>>>>> forwarding his message for the LNC members who were not at
> >> Monday's COC
> >>>>>>> meeting.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Convention Update - Next to last one!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Friday, June 26th the COC was notified by Rosen Properties
> >> that their
> >>>>>>> Shingle Creek property was not going to open until September.
> >> This meant
> >>>>>>> that our National Convention was in jeopardy and we were in
> >> shock.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> During that initial discussion we were told that their Rosen
> >> Center
> >>>>>>> property had never closed and they proposed moving our
> >> convention to
> >>>>>>> that venue and the adjoining Orange County Convention Center.
> >> As of
> >>>>>>> today we are in possession of an outline of how that will
> >> happen and
> >>>>>>> hope to have a contract addendum ready for the LNC's approval
> >> within a
> >>>>>>> couple days. There will be no additional costs to the
> >> Libertarian Party
> >>>>>>> for this change in venue, all added costs for the Convention
> >> Center will
> >>>>>>> be taken care of by Rosen Properties. We will actually have a
> >> larger
> >>>>>>> main hall at 93k sq ft and more room for exhibits and
> >> breakouts.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All room reservations made for Shingle Creek will be moved to
> >> an
> >>>>>>> equivalent room at the Rosen Center (which was the location
> >> of our 2016
> >>>>>>> National Convention). You need not contact the hotel to
> >> change your
> >>>>>>> reservation. Also, all suite upgrades and hospitality rooms
> >> will also
> >>>>>>> have similar settings
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The COC also voted tonight to approve an addendum to the
> >> contract with
> >>>>>>> AV Group that will provide a remote convention site for NY,
> >> NJ and CT
> >>>>>>> delegates at Syracuse, NY based on discussions with the three
> >> state
> >>>>>>> chairs. This is an option we have been working on for almost
> >> two months
> >>>>>>> and had a hard deadline of today to proceed. We did with with
> >> no surety
> >>>>>>> that the delegates at Orlando will authorize remote
> >> participation but
> >>>>>>> with the faith that they will for delegates that cannot
> >> travel due to
> >>>>>>> government constraints.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We are still planning to have a great convention at Orlando
> >> next week
> >>>>>>> and look forward to seeing many of you there.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Live Free,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Tim Hagan
> >>>>>>> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>
> >>>> Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
> >> inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic
> >> arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting
> >> (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let
> >> me know.
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> In Liberty,
> >>>
> >>> Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
> >> inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic
> >> arenas.  If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting
> >> (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let
> >> me know.
> >>>
>
-- 

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *