[Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting

Wed Jan 6 01:35:40 EST 2016

To the request of Dr. Lark and the previous question of the Chair, here is
another poll featuring OKC, Phoenix, and NOTA.

http://polljunkie.com/poll/zamzoj/poll-2-please-do-not-open-the-page-and-then-not-vote

To Dr. Lark's request, it would be truly wonderful if somebody could post
the prices to the hotels.  I appreciate that some of you strongly believe
this should be factored into our decision.

Apologies to Dr. Lark on this particular part as I certainly don't mean to
be directly combative, but as I have stated on various occasions and will
likely continue to argue, unless there is a significant cost difference (of
which I cannot imagine there is), then I strongly disagree with cost be
factored into the meeting of a National Political Party.  Further, I
encourage others not to factor price unless it is genuinely significant.
As I have clarified several times, it is completely inappropriate to spend
$500 on a hotel room.  Any reasonable person can understand that.  On the
other hand, there is absolutely no practical difference between a $75 room
with breakfast and a $125 room without breakfast.  That is simply the cost
of doing business and I believe it is in poor form for an organization that
is literally trying to elect its own candidate for President of the United
States to be obstructed by such a thing.

Going back to one of Dr. Lark's points: there are significant details
missing from the Oklahoma idea.  It would be great to have these detailed.
In other words: what exactly would the LNC be expected to do in OKC?  Would
these expectations align with the calendar or not (essentially Dr. Lark's
question)?

That said, I fully understand if you wish to wait for said numbers before
voting.  If not, then it will literally take 10 seconds of your life:

http://polljunkie.com/poll/zamzoj/poll-2-please-do-not-open-the-page-and-then-not-vote

Thank you.
Kevin Ludlow
Region 7 Rep
512-773-3968

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:08 AM, James Lark <jwl3s at virginia.edu> wrote:

> Dear colleagues:
>
>     I hope all is well with you.  I am writing to suggest that a poll
> between Phoenix and Oklahoma City would be appropriate, and that the room
> rates for the hotels be provided prior to conducted the poll.  I suggest
> this for the following reasons:
>
> *  The previous poll did not allow for the expression of intensity of
> preference.  My vote for Oklahoma City was a result of the fact that I had
> to select one of the listed options in order to participate in the poll.  I
> was essentially indifferent between Phoenix and OKC when I voted.
>
> *  If we are able to hold the February meeting at a prospective convention
> hotel in Phoenix, then unless the cost of holding the meeting in Phoenix is
> substantially greater than holding it in OKC, my preference would change
> from a very weak preference for OKC to a weak preference for Phoenix.
>
> *  A poll with only the choices of Phoenix and OKC may produce an ordering
> between the two locations that is different from the one produced by the
> previous poll.
>
> *  If I understand correctly, the LP Oklahoma is allowed to conduct only
> one submission of signatures in its petitioning effort.  If so, then if the
> deadline for submission of signatures is at least a week later than Feb.
> 22, my gut feeling is that the signatures should not be submitted on or
> about Feb. 22.  Thus, it is not clear to me that one of the possible
> benefits of an LNC meeting in OKC (a press conference associated with the
> submission of the signatures) would materialize.
>
>     As always, thanks for your work for liberty.  I look forward to seeing
> you next month.
>
>     Take care,
>     Jim
>
>     James W. Lark, III
>     Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>     University of Virginia
>
>     Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> -----
>
> On 1/5/2016 11:36 PM, Nicholas Sarwark wrote:
>
> We have received bids from convention hotels in Bellevue, Phoenix, New
> Orleans, and Atlantic City.  Based on the poll Mr. Ludlow organized, I'm
> leaning toward planning the meeting for Oklahoma City.
>
> Robert is checking on final numbers on the bids that came in today, and
> should have those back by tomorrow.  All of the other cities are more
> expensive than Oklahoma City, but I think we already knew that.
>
> If you feel we should have another poll between Phoenix and Oklahoma City,
> please say so.  If I don't hear a strong objection or request for another
> poll in the next day or so, I intend to ask Mr. Benedict to go forward with
> planning the next meeting in Oklahoma City and coordinating with the
> Oklahoma Libertarian Party for a press conference on the Friday prior or
> Monday after the meeting.
>
> -Nick
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Kevin Ludlow < <ludlow at gmail.com>
> ludlow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ms. Kirkland is right.  I completely missed Mr. Marsh's response.  So
>> sorry, Ed and thanks, Vicki.  That leaves Mr. Tomasso and Mr. Windeler
>> unaccounted for; I have a message out to both of them.  24 of 26 on our LNC
>> list have weighed in.
>>
>>
>> *Oklahoma City*
>> Gary Johnson
>> Marc Feldman
>> Nick Sarwark
>> Vicki Kirkland (originally voted New Orleans)
>> Guy McLendon (originally voted New Orleans)
>> Wes Benedict
>> Norm Olsen (voted via email instead of the poll)
>> Daniel Hayes (voted in email instead of the poll)
>> Jim Lark
>> Sean O'Toole (voted in email instead of poll)
>> Scott Spencer
>> Bill Redpath
>>
>> *Phoenix*
>> Kevin Ludlow
>> Sam Goldstein
>> Dan Wiener
>> Alicia Mattson
>> Tim Hagan
>> Scott Lieberman
>> Brett Bittner (originally voted Oklahoma City)
>>
>> *New Orleans*
>> Arvin Vohra
>> Doug Craig (voted in email instead of poll)
>>
>> *Atlantic City*
>> Josh Katz
>> Ed Marsh
>>
>> *Bellevue*
>> Roland Rimers
>>
>> *Have not heard from*
>> Ron Windeler
>> Rich Tomasso
>>
>> <SNIP>
>
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