[Lnc-business] Gun Rights/Watch List Resolution - seeking co-sponsors

Tue Aug 9 17:41:04 EDT 2016

I think the biggest difference between the gun laws and the drug laws is
that the status quo is different.  Drug laws have (most) of the momentum in
the right direction, the only question is how far we'll go.  On guns, the
most libertarian outcome among the likely possibilities is standing still.

This is at least worth full discussion and consideration.  I'll cosponsor.

Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> We are being slammed by gun rights groups for not taking a firm proactive
> stand on this.  In Colorado, we (they) have this question come up most
> often at Outreach booths and the LPCO took a firm position on it to quell
> any confusion that may have been the result of differing statements than
> our candidates have made considering guns and watch lists and the direction
> of the current administration, particularly considering that
> "ant-government types, such as libertarians" have been targetted for
> watchlists over the past year and as campaign fear-mongering takes place,
> is certain to remain an issue.  However, Joshua is right.  There are other
> multiple issues that could be addressed.
>
> Let me lay out the frank concerns of the Libertarian Party of Colorado
> (via the State Chair)  which I am sure is shared by many members and
> affiliates.
>
> There are three issues which are in the news about which the position of
> our Party is being muddled.  Freedom of association, drug laws, and gun
> rights.  Massive changes in freedom of association laws are not going to
> happen tomorrow.  Drugs other than pot are not going to be legalized
> tomorrow.  Gun rights restrictions and watch lists are happening right NOW
> and we need to take a stand now and be crystal crystal clear as national
> leadership.
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think this is, if such a phrase makes sense, among the worst and most
>> dangerous forms of gun control.  It's also among the most insidious, which
>> is even more disturbing.
>>
>> I therefore am supportive, but I'd be curious to hear why we are singling
>> out this issue, among the many offenses against our freedom that are
>> discussed heavily in the policy world.  I don't think anyone would be
>> surprised to hear we favor gun rights and due process - at least those who
>> know us, since, after all, one can in fact be surprised more generally by
>> such a shocking "left and right" combination.  I don't think this will be
>> news to anyone about this party, is what I mean to say.
>>
>> Perhaps more broadly - what is the purpose of this resolution?
>>
>> If I can be helped to see this, I will likely cosponsor.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In furtherance of the request from CO and now AZ for the LNC to consider
>>> a resolution similar to the CO Gun Rights and Watch Lists Resolution, I
>>> offer this and seek co-sponsors
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human
>>> right;
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at any
>>> level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the
>>> ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of due
>>> process and deny the legitimacy of “victimless crimes”;
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the government has steadily encroached upon these rights by illegitimately
>>> regulating and restricting access for firearms and ammunition and may
>>> further seek to deprive people who have been convicted of no crime of
>>> their inherent right to full self-defense by denying their civil and
>>> inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition;
>>>
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party opposes any policy which
>>> would deny access to any firearms or ammunition to any person simply for
>>> being placed on any government watch or no-fly list and reaffirms its call
>>> to repeal and oppose any existing or proposed firearm and ammunition
>>> regulations.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
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