[Lnc-business] Motion to Suspend

Fri Sep 16 11:07:26 EDT 2016

Well, since it's all out of order anyway, I'll just say this and be
done. 

The time to take this or any other action to effect who our nominees are
was between January and May of this year, and the next opportunity is
between December and Convention '18. At this time, it's just not
reasonable to take action. 

I have heard the calls from others; the disgruntled voices at our
ticket's deviation from our platform. Certainly, I understand - I myself
cringe every time one particular items is mentioned. But we're too far
down the road to change anything. Everything is as it is, and will be
for the next 53 days or so. 

Interestingly, most of the complaints do come from people who have
either previously announced publicly their intention to not be involved
with the LP, or who I know have not been actively involved in the LP. I
would remind all of those people that sitting on the sidelines and
asking others to do things for you is not very libertarian at all. If
you want something, you have to get up and make it happen. TANSTAAFL. 

---
Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
LPKY Judicial Committee 

On 2016-09-16 10:57, Brett Bittner wrote: 

> Daniel, 
> 
> The next state convention is actually next weekend in New Hampshire. 
> 
> Brett C. Bittner 
> 
> Region 3 Representative 
> Libertarian National Committee [1] 
> 
> brett.bittner at lp.org 
> 317.643.2566 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> And I get to see I wrote AND instead of AN in my hasty reply. 
> 
> This sort of thing is a big enough black eye as it is. 
> 
> Where the members from this county at the National Convention? 
> 
> My suggestion is that in the future they should show up at convention and make sure their voice is heard if they were not. Also, show up at their state conventions and make sure they have state leadership that is involved. 
> 
> Daniel Hayes 
> LNC At Large Member 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Patrick, 
> 
> The motion to suspend by and email vote would be out of order. See the LP bylaws Article 14.5: 
> 
> * 
> 
> A candidate's nomination may be suspended by a 3/4 vote of the entire membership of the National Committee at a meeting. That candidate's nomination shall then be declared null and void unless the suspended candidate appeals the suspension to the Judicial Committee within seven days of receipt of notification of suspension. The resolution of suspension must state the specific reasons for suspension and must be signed by each member of the National Committee agreeing thereto. The Judicial Committee shall meet and act on this appeal within 30 days and before the election. 
> 
> The 
> 
> The motion to suspend must come in a meeting. That could be a teleconference,video conference or physical meeting. Email does not suffice as a meeting. As it would be a special meeting the purpose of the meeting would have to be in the call of the meeting. The call for the Sept. 25th meeting did not include this purpose so that could not be brought up then. 
> 
> What would need to be done would be get 5 other sponsors for the meeting for the purpose to suspend Johnson and Weld. I also think that it would need to be a divided question. The nominees were elected at convention separately and the matter to suspend should be voted on separately. 
> 
> Daniel Hayes 
> LNC At Large Member 
> 
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:15 AM, Patrick McKnight <patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On behalf of the request of members of my region I make a motion to suspend the Nomination of Johnson and Weld. The message I received is below. 
> "On September 13th at the regular business meeting of the LP Seacoast, a
> motion was made and passed to contact you regarding the presidential ballot
> of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. The motion asked that you make a motion to
> the LNC to suspend the nomination of both Gary Johnson and Bill Weld as
> they do not uphold the principles of the Libertarian Party as both have
> openly made statements in support of the use of force. Both candidates
> actively avoid using the word libertarian and have demonstrated time and
> time again an inability to even grasp what it means to be libertarian. Per
> Article 14, Section 5 of the LP bylaws, a candidate's nomination may be
> suspended by a 3/4 vote of the entire membership of the National Committee
> at a meeting. We understand that this motion has a low probability of
> success, but we're asking you to show that there are some in the
> Libertarian Party who still hold principle above party. Do you have the
> principle to stand with those who voice opposition to those without
> principles? Will you put forth an effort on behalf of principled
> libertarians or will you willingly step back, swallow your principle and
> pump the party line? Is this still the "Party of Principle?" Members of
> your region are speaking out and the ball is in your court. We will
> patiently await your response.
> 
> Brian McQuade
> Chair, Libertarian Party of the Seacoast New Hampshire"
> 
> Would anyone like to co-sponsor this motion? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Patrick McKnight 
> Region 8 Rep 
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