[Lnc-business] Support for Caryn Ann Harlos' Motion To Rescind

[Alicia Mattson]

Caryn Ann,

Article 7, Section 12 is the same bylaw I looked at, and all I see there is
that the JC can potentially "veto" a decision, thus making it "null and
void".  Veto power on something the LNC did adopt is not legislative power,
such that if the LNC rejects a motion, the JC can enact it.

Do you think that the U.S. Constitution provides that if Congress votes
down a bill the President wanted, that the President's veto power can
unilaterally enact the bill into law?

-Alicia




On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Alicia,
>
> ==You keep saying this.  Is it your belief that if the LNC refuses to
> adopt a given motion, the Judicial Committee has some sort of authority to
> make us adopt it?  If so, please cite the bylaw which gives you that
> impression.  Veto power and legislative power are quite different things.==
>
> Yes I do.  There are members who feel that this process may violate
> certain sections of the Bylaws.  You don't have to agree with them.  You
> don't have to agree whether it would be a fruitful exercise or futile, or
> trying to unring a bell.  They have this right.  I personally think the
> Bylaws should give members more power to appeal, but such is what it is.
>
> Article 7, Section 12: Upon appeal by ten percent of the delegates
> credentialed at the most recent Regular Convention or one percent of the
> Party sustaining members the Judicial Committee shall consider the question
> of whether or not a decision of the National Committee contravenes
> specified sections of the Bylaws. If the decision is vetoed by the Judicial
> Committee, it shall be declared null and void.
>
> I am not going to drop names without permission, but some of the members
> who feel this way aren't wet-behind-the-ears new people but experienced
> seasoned members' who's opinion I respect.
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Would you like me to ask the members of this group who requested to
>> provide their names and copies of their LP membership cards to prove their
>> bona fides?  I didn't think we were in the habit of speculating that
>> concerned members might be old party operatives or taking emails at
>> anything other than face value without some proof they are not what they
>> seem to be just because we don't like what they had to say.
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
>> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>> On Friday, September 23, 2016, Alicia Mattson <secretary at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Surely I'm not the only one who sees the irony of someone using an
>>> unsigned email from an anonymously-structured email address to lobby the
>>> LNC for transparency.  Just sayin'...
>>>
>>> We have also recently been lobbied to suspend our presidential ticket by
>>> a person who later noted he's not even a member of the LP.  For all I know,
>>> some of these emails could be coming from Trump or Clinton supporters.
>>>
>>> -Alicia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Audacious Caucus <
>>> beaudaciouslp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To the members of the Libertarian National Committee,
>>>>
>>>> We the members of the Libertarian Party Audacious Caucus (LPAC) wish to
>>>> express our support for the motion to rescind put forth by LNC Region 1
>>>> Representative Caryn Ann Harlos. This motion is a call for transparency in
>>>> light of some troubling aspects of the contract Chairman Sarwark was
>>>> authorized to negotiate and sign. We feel this is a play at opacity that is
>>>> not acceptable. There can be an argument made for tactical aspects of
>>>> keeping the contract hidden during the campaign, but after it is over,
>>>> members of the LNC should be able to discuss it with their constituents,
>>>> and members should be able to view the document as the information can be
>>>> useful in deciding on LNC representatives, or as a benchmark if the bylaw
>>>> provision for a stock contract comes back around.
>>>>
>>>> We hope that you will choose wisely and support the rescission, not as
>>>> a personal attack on the Chair, but as a support of transparency to set an
>>>> example for the old parties.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> The Members of The Libertarian Party Audacious Caucus.
>>>>
>>>> Be Audacious!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
>
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