[Lnc-business] MOTION: Update Liberty Links page on our website
Starchild
sfdreamer at earthlink.net
Fri Dec 9 04:47:43 EST 2016
Thanks for your question David. I expect many if not most of the groups on the list will be at least somewhat familiar to most LNC members, so it's probably not the case that anyone would need to visit 35 separate websites in order to have a passing familiarity with the list.
Remember also that these are just weblinks which can readily be removed again if some issue were to come to our attention that made a group beyond the pale from a libertarian perspective. This is not about sending them money or even giving any formal statement of endorsement. I'm also not sure that the 25 groups already listed on our site have had any LNC vetting whatsoever (not that I have any concerns about any of them).
Of course I don't agree with every single position taken, article published, etc., by every group, on either our current list of 25 or my list of 35 proposed additions, and other LNC members probably won't either (e.g. GOA has often endorsed Republican candidates, the Niskanen Center supports the anthropogenic theory of climate change and recommends a global carbon tax as a way to address it, the Mises Institute has published articles advocating restrictions on immigration, etc.) – but then how many of us always agree with everything the LP itself says or does either?
On the whole, I will vouch for these groups and sites as pro-freedom organizations doing good and important work spreading libertarian ideas and advancing libertarian goals. So while I would encourage anyone who is unfamiliar with or has doubts about a particular group to check out their site, do a quick websearch, ask around, etc., I wouldn't stress too much if you don't have time to do so. If we vote to add the names and you later become aware of some issue with a group serious enough from a libertarian perspective that it outweighs the good they are doing for the cause and we wouldn't want to be in any way associated with them, by all means bring it up so we can have their link removed.
This particular list is not set in stone either, of course. I tried to come up with a list that was balanced in terms of representing a range of different issues, different types of groups, not exclusively radical libertarian by any means, but certainly with those views represented. However I'm open to further additions or removals. I do think the bar for representing the Libertarian Party as a candidate for public office should be set higher than the bar for having a link on the LP website though – again these are just links, not people explicitly acting in the name of the party. So unless you would consider it a no-brainer for the LP to censure or boycott a candidate running as a Libertarian who took some particular stance or action, it would not make any sense in my opinion to reject a group's inclusion here for taking that stance or action.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
(415) 625-FREE
@StarchildSF
On Dec 8, 2016, at 6:47 PM, David Demarest wrote:
> Starchild,
>
> I like the direction you are going on this proposal. How would you suggest that we go about due diligence on the long list of organizations that you are proposing for approval by the LNC?
>
> Thoughts?
>
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> ~David Pratt Demarest
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> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Starchild
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 9:56 AM
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Subject: [Lnc-business] MOTION: Update Liberty Links page on our website
>
>
> One cool feature which has been on LP.org for a few years now but which looks better on the new site is the Liberty Links page – https://www.lp.org/liberty-links/ – which can be found by clicking on that title under the "Contact" header found at the bottom of each page on the site.
>
> Like the story on Save Scranton currently on the front page of LP.org that I mentioned in another recent post, linking to other pro-freedom organizations and websites is an important affirmation of our status as the Party of Principle – a party that isn't just another political party, but part of a larger libertarian movement which is made up of an ever-growing number of organizations and people in the United States and around the world who are fighting for freedom and with whom we stand in solidarity.
>
> However while our movement continues to grow, the number of fellow traveler organizations linked from our site has remained about the same since the feature was added in December 2010, going from 18 listings then to just 25 listings currently. [Thanks to the Internet Archive by the way for making this and so much other historical data about our site and many other websites available – see https://web.archive.org/web/20100601000000*/http://www.LP.org ]
>
> I propose we expand our listings to reflect the growing freedom movement by adding links to the following 35 additional groups and informational resources, including many prominent movement sites that have been too long overlooked, to bring our total number of linked sites to 60 (a round number, divisible by four to nicely fit the formatting of the new site), and request co-sponsors for this motion.
>
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> MOTION: I move that we direct staff to add these pro-freedom groups and links to the Liberty Links page on our website (currently at
> https://www.lp.org/liberty-links/ ):
>
> Alliance for the Separation of School and State – SchoolAndState.org
> Atlas Network – AtlasNetwork.org
> BitcoinNotBombs – BitcoinNotBombs.com
> Bleeding Heart Libertarians – BleedingHeartLibertarians.com
> Campaign For Liberty – CampaignForLiberty.com
> Center for a Stateless Society – C4SS.org
> Copblock – Copblock.org
> Economic Freedom Network – FreeTheWorld.com
> Electronic Frontier Foundation – EFF.org
> Erotic Service Providers Legal Education & Research Project – DecriminalizeSexWork.com
> Families Against Mandatory Minimums – FAMM.org
> The Free State Project – FreeStateProject.org
> Free Talk Live – FreeTalkLive.com
> Freedoms Phoenix – FreedomsPhoenix.com
> Fully Informed Jury Association – FIJA.org
> The Future of Freedom Foundation – FFF.org
> Gun Owners of America – GunOwners.org
> Independent Political Report – IndependentPoliticalReport.com
> The Innocence Project – InnocenceProject.org
> Institute for Humane Studies – TheIHS.org
> LewRockwell – LewRockwell.com
> Libertarian Rock – LibertarianRock.com
> The Liberty Radio Network – LRN.fm
> Miss Liberty's Film & Documentary World – MissLiberty.com
> LPedia – LPedia.org
> National Youth Rights Association – YouthRights.org
> Niskanen Center – NiskanenCenter.org
> Open Borders – OpenBorders.info
> Outright Libertarians – OutrightUSA.org
> Rational Review – RationalReview.com
> Restore The 4th – RestoreThe4th.com
> The Seasteading Institute – Seasteading.org
> Stop The Drug War – StopTheDrugWar.org
> Stossel In The Classroom – StosselInTheClassroom.org
> Strike The Root – StrikeTheRoot.org
>
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> While our listing of libertarian-oriented groups active in the United States or worldwide will remain far from comprehensive with these additions, I believe adding the above groups and sites will showcase the scope and diversity of the freedom movement and help visitors toLP.org explore the movement and increase their understanding of and support for libertarian ideas.
>
> I expect that these groups and websites, especially the less-visited ones, will also appreciate the new traffic they get via our site, and be more favorably disposed toward the Libertarian Party as a result. But as with the article on Scranton Saves, that is not the main reason I believe we should do this. Expressing our solidarity with others in the libertarian movement is simply the right thing to do.
>
> Love & Liberty,
> ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> (415) 625-FREE
> @StarchildSF
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