[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to support campaign of Joe Buchman

Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos at gmail.com
Mon Jul 10 08:34:28 EDT 2017 

Very good points Starchild and both views are represented in our membership.

I certainly hope we don't divisively "take sides" on that.

-Caryn Ann


On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:07 AM Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> Ken,
>
> You're certainly not the first Libertarian to express a disappointed
> emotional reaction to a candidate's realistic appraisal of his or her
> chances, but to you and any other Libertarian who has felt this way, I say
> take heart! One can lose in conventional terms and still win in libertarian
> terms. A *conventional* win means the warm body you support occupying the
> sought-after office. A *libertarian* win, however, means advancing the
> cause of freedom! Such wins can happen in any number of ways – building
> momentum for a future run, exposing more people to libertarian ideas,
> building the party, etc. Of course the cause of freedom is *usually* more
> likely to be advanced by a Libertarian occupying the sought-after office
> than by not occupying it – but it isn't the be-all, end-all it's too often
> made out to be. In some ways, the real fight begins *after* an election
> is won. If an elected Libertarian isn't mentally prepared to stick to his
> or her libertarian principles and positions, or doesn't have solidly
> libertarian principles or positions to begin with, the real, post-election
> fight for what s/he will do in office is as good as lost. Amid the statist
> culture and pressures in which s/he will be immersed, such an elected
> Libertarian will have little chance of surviving with an agenda to advance
> the cause of freedom intact.
>
> *Predicting* an election loss also isn't the same thing as *conceding*.
> When a candidate *concedes* a race, s/he is saying "the campaign is over,
> my opponent won". Clearly Joe Buchman is saying no such thing! From
> appearances, he is running and will continue to run a vigorous campaign and
> seek as much exposure for our ideas and as many votes as possible. He is
> running to win in libertarian terms. But is it wise to predict a loss at
> the ballot box? While miracles occasionally do happen and I've suggested
> candidates leave the perceptions door open by not entirely ruling out the
> possibility of getting elected, I would much rather see a Libertarian
> fighting a long-shot campaign – and this is obviously a long-shot campaign;
> no Libertarian has come close to being elected to Congress – say flat-out
> that s/he won't win, than to flat-out say that s/he will. Any candidate
> facing those kind of odds who predicts electoral victory is either
> deceiving him/herself, or attempting to deceive others. The former shows a
> poor grasp of reality, while the latter shows a lack of integrity. Neither
> reflects well on the candidate! Joe, by contrast, showed his good character
> by giving an honest and realistic assessment of his chances. For every
> person out there who thinks, 'I want to vote for someone who tells me
> s/he's going to win', I believe there's another person out there thinking,
> 'I want to vote for someone who has integrity and tells the truth'. To
> which type of voter mentality should we, as the Party of Principle, be
> trying to appeal?
>
> Love & Liberty,
>
>                                      ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>                           RealReform at earthlink.net
>                                   (415) 625-FREE
>                                    @StarchildSF
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:00 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>
> I found out about this campaign yesterday (now, 2 days ago) and the
> referenced KSL interview almost immediately starts with the candidate
> saying "I'm not going to win."  It made me sad. More importantly, I can't
> agree to give money to someone who has already conceded the race.  I mean,
> what is the money going to be used for?  Losing better?
>
> By contrast, from what I can see, candidates like Laura Ebke and at least
> one of the recent converts in NH are gearing up re-election campaigns with
> the intent to win. They certainly haven't publicly conceded, anyway.  There
> are lots of candidates throughout the country gearing up for 2018 races. 4
> L converts and many other candidates looking to run winnable races.
>
> If this body decides to support candidates, I'd really rather see this
> body support candidates that are running to win.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone, I received the below request from Dr. Joe Buchman (Utah)
>> and have been speaking with him about this for the past few weeks.  I would
>> like us to consider assisting him to our maximum allowed of 5K.
>>
>> ========
>>
>> To the members of the LNC:
>>
>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz nine days ago from the Third
>> District of Utah has created a Special Election to be held 7 November
>> 2017.
>>
>> Joe Buchman is the Libertarian Candidate for that seat and following a
>> special election convention by the Libertarian Party of Utah is on the
>> ballot for November 7th.   There is a Democratic opponent.  Three
>> Republicans will face each other in a primary next month.
>>
>> See: https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-candidate-filings
>>
>> This is, we believe, the only remaining contest for federal office in
>> 2017 with a Libertarian candidate.
>>
>> To date Dr. Buchman has invested $1,000.00 of his personal funds in the
>> campaign and has raised approximately $250.00 from other donors, with
>> promises for about $500 in process.
>>
>> Joe has just been scheduled as the sole guest for the first hour of Coast
>> to Coast AM, a national networked late-night radio talk show with an
>> estimated *2.5 million listeners*, for *Saturday evening, July 29th,
>> 10:05PM to 11:00PM Pacific time*.  Past show hosts Art Bell and Rollye
>> James were self-identified Libertarians, and past guests have included
>> Judge Jim Gray, Michael Badnarik, Aaron Russo, Harry Browne, Andre Marrou
>> and Dr. Buchman himself (in 2008, when he last ran for the US Congress).
>>
>> See: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/search/?query=libertarian
>>
>> Joe will be discussing his campaign for the US Congress, his platform as
>> an expression of the NAP and Self-Ownership paradigms, will be directing
>> listeners to his website and will be requesting donations.  The Coast to
>> Coast website will also provide a link to his campaign site -
>> www.GotoL.vote
>>
>> This is a request for national party funding for this singularly
>> important Special Election campaign.
>>
>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz has already generated
>> significant national media attention, and this race is likely to continue
>> to generate national media coverage as the replacement of Congressman
>> Chaffetz will reflect, to some degree, a measure of voter confidence in the
>> Trump administration.
>>
>> The Libertarian Party nationally will benefit from this election, the
>> last of 2017 to include a Libertarian candidate for federal office.
>>
>> If a funding agreement can be reached prior to the show, Dr. Buchman
>> would then appeal to Coast to Coast listeners with a promise that any
>> donations received during the show will be matched dollar-for-dollar.  The
>> show will be replayed and will also be available as a download from the
>> network website.
>>
>> Joe has been interviewed by three local papers (the Salt Lake Tribune,
>> Deseret News and City Weekly) and by KSL Radio's Doug Wright.
>>
>> That 9 minute radio interview can be found at:
>>
>> https://www.ksl.com/?nid=1388&a=11898
>>
>> Bottom line: Joe is experienced with media interviews, had a prior career
>> in radio (including working with Bill Redpath at WTTS radio in the 1970s),
>> is passionate about both Libertarian political pragmatism and philosophy, *and
>> is currently scheduled for one of the most visible media appearances by any
>> Libertarian Candidate this month* (and perhaps for the remainder of this
>> year).
>>
>> This special election creates something of a special case for funding; an
>> amount equivalent to that provided to the recent candidate in Montana would
>> seem equitable.
>>
>> With gratitude for your consideration of this request,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> PS If you do choose to listen to the KSL interview and/or to review the
>> website and links to the print interviews there; ALL feedback, suggestions
>> for improvement are also welcomed.
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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