[Lnc-business] Resignation From LPF

Tue Oct 24 11:46:13 EDT 2017

My original reply wasn't intended for the LNC, it was intended for the LPF
Executive Committee, but since this has become a matter that National is
discussing let me give my full thoughts and feelings on the subject, or at
least address some things people are probably wondering at this time.

First of, I have been serving my tenure on the LPF EC for my third term now
and I have been around since before Augustus Invictus decided to run for
senate. Our affiliate has dealt with so much drama that we would have been
prime pickings for a reality TV show or Netflix special, despite the fact
that we were simultaneously getting ready for a Presidential election year.

In this time, I become familiar with Ramsey and others in the LPF who have
been the subjects to a lot of scrutiny and attention. Ramsey and his
significant other have always been very kind and friendly towards me, being
mixed race didn't seem to have any effect on that. We have had a great
personal and professional relationship working in the LPF, I have even
appeared on Ramsey's podcast to discuss cryptocurrency. My understanding is
that Ramsey has had previous life in which he had held white supremacist
beliefs, but has reformed his views and disbanded that mentality. Nothing
makes me believe that that is a lie, and from a perspective of pure
objectivity, I challenge anyone to find any white supremacist motions,
resolutions or convictions in our minutes or any racial superiority being
espoused in any of our county affiliates, you will find none. Stanton, who
I believe has a lot of potential as a liberty activist, has been ringing
the bells proclaiming white supremacy is proliferating the Florida
Executive Committee, this is not true. If it were, I hope this body would
trust that the delegates of the Libertarian Party of Florida have made a
good faith decision to elect their representatives whom they believe are
competent enough to serve and would route out anyone who they believe
espoused racist ideas. I for one find all forms of racism repugnant, along
with ethnology-nationalism which I believe is a tyrannical ideology which
only seeks to Balkanize the world.

Stanton has been attempting to make a case for Ramsey's removal or
suspension for quite some time, but I don't find it all convincing enough
to believe that Ramsey wishes to push a white Nationalist agenda in the
LPF. For one, Stanton mentions Ramsey's advocacy of Operation Werewolf, a
group of pagans who are into weightlifting, martial arts, motorcycles and
self-development. They are a group of white men and women who have been
accosted by anti-hate organizations, one of their members, Jack Donovan, is
friends with Chuck Phaliniuk, the author of Fight Club, the connections
just get weirder and weirder but you can make any associations you want
depending on how deep you want to go. I have read books by Jack Donovan and
Paul Waggner who are members of Operation Werewolf, I like to think I
understand the mentality that lays behind such groups. I can understand why
someone follows a group like this without being a racist for instance. I
cannot pretend to live inside anyone's mind, but I can make assumptions and
rational perceptions based off of what actions others take.

Despite the hard work of our affiliate, the dozens of local races and a
gubernatorial race we are participating in this election season, time and
time again the important work we do is overshadowed due to non-concerns.
How do I know they are non-concerns? Because there is no practical effect
seen within our affiliates operations that leans towards racism. I
challenged Stanton to point out specific examples of official acts of
racism and he has failed to do so. In the meantime, those who believe they
are fighting for a righteous cause by continuing to slander the LPF are the
biggest threat to our affiliate. I have been taught to protect my
reputation with my life, and I feel the same sense of preservation for the
image of the LPF, however, by painting the LPF as some sort of group of
neo-nazi sympathizers, fascists, racists, or any other broad brushed insult
extensive damage has been done to our name and reputation which has
resulted in many members dropping out lest they become guilty by
association as well as the subject of attacks from Libertarian affiliates
nation-wide who think they understand our situation. The LPF EC is sick of
it, last meetings vote was a double jeopardy motion to suspend Ramsey but
we do not find the evidence convincing, many of the EC members view it as a
scorched Earth crusade of virtue signaling and selfish
passive-aggressiveness by a small camp who have nothing else to contribute.
100 percent of Stanton's motions since becoming a regional representative
have been to either censure, suspend, or remove someone he doesn't agree
with. I am personally sick and tired of it all, all we want to do is
advance freedom and make 2018 a successful election year for libertarians
across the state of Florida. As far as the violent threats, without a
police report or some sort of public or private investigation I do not feel
comfortable assigning a verdict and refuse to do so. The Libertarian Party
of Florida is not a Human Resources department, mediation service nor a
court room, we are a political Party, and I will not allow petty squabbles
to get in the way of our objectives unless absolutely necessary. So far, we
have spent countless hours over many years publicly discussing these issues
and our decision was reflected in last meetings vote.

I do not believe the LNC should be getting involved in Florida's affairs,
no amount of statements or censures will change our situation and will only
be another blow to our reputation. We will handle it and may be finally
turning a corner. Let us focus on our 2018 election season in peace.

Sincerely,

Steven Nekhaila
LNC Region 2 Representative Alternate
LPF Region 14 Representative
305-393-6412

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:39 AM, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>
wrote:

> I also agree with Ed.
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> Caryn Ann, just to make it perfectly clear, I will support an
> investigative motion only if requested by someone in the Florida affiliate.
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> In the meantime, I will continue to disregard political correctness, speak
> out against mindless bigotry at every opportunity and encourage economic
> and social ostracism to cope with both supremacist violence and the moral
> wrong of non-violent ‘bake the cake’ intolerance. State-sponsored
> retaliatory violence is not the answer to intolerance and just leaves the
> door open for state-initiated repression that we Libertarians are supposed
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> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:17 AM
> *To:* ednmax at yahoo.com
> *Cc:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org; lnc-business <lnc-business at lp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Resignation From LPF
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> Thank you Ed.  I really appreciate your thoughts.
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> -Caryn Ann
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> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Ed Marsh <ednmax at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I talk with the leadership (officers) of the LPF on a regular basis.
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> Not one regular member or member of the Exc. Com has asked me to
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> have the LNC involved in this matter.
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> At this time unless something changes let the Florida Libertarian Party
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> take care of its own internal business.
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> Ed Marsh
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> Region 2 Rep (Florida,Georgia,Tennessee)
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> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
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