[Lnc-business] Consent

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sat Jan 13 02:09:21 EST 2018

Arvin, let me be blunt.  I do not buy for a second that you have any
sympathies for any "difficulties" your massive lack of judgment and
insensitive ham-handed ways of dealing with serious topics.  Your
sympathies do little to negate the fact that more of our time and resources
is spent cleaning up YOUR messes.  I for one, am tired of it.

You didn't only state what you claim above.  You went far further and
completely lacked tact and nuance.

-Caryn Ann

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:45 PM, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com> wrote:

> LNC-
> First, let me express my sympathy for the difficulties many of you have
> faced over the last couple days, on account of my view that family,
> culture, and individuals, not government, should determine if a person is
> ready to give sexual consent. Those who have read my longer posts on the
> topic probably find material you agree with. Or perhaps not, but probably
> nothing explosively sensational. Any future posts on this topic, which I
> probably won't bring up given it's minor budgetary cost, will probably be
> written in a comparatively non-inflammatory way.
> I know many of you are weary of dealing with local responses to my social
> media posts. I would encourage those of you in this position to write,
> publicly, clearly, and comprehensibly on any of these topics. If age of
> consent is too incendiary, fine, write on government schools. Or military
> enlistment. Or military policy. Or social security. Or medicare. Or
> anything past soda taxes, hemp, and the federal Department of Education (a
> whopping 10% of the total welfare spend on education). If you don't want to
> be rude, fine, be polite. Just be honest, and be Libertarian.
> As I look through social media of the LP leadership, LP candidates, and
> general media, I find that the most accurate representation of Libertarian
> positions today are coming from our opponents. As an example, our enemies
> say that we want to end public education; our candidates and leaders deny
> it. Will it be just me and our enemies that put forward complete
> Libertarian positions? I can't imagine that we want that.
> In terms of sexual consent, as far as I know, the only Libertarians I know
> who have spoken on this topic at all are the elected Libertarian councilman
> who initially posted on the issue, Dr. Ruwart, and me. And when you silence
> the Dr. Ruwarts of the world, you end up being a party okay with nominating
> Bob Barr.
> It is also telling the extent to which those who have had their lives, and
> the lives of their loved ones destroyed by current age of consent laws have
> only felt okay messaging me privately, fearing the extent of the histrionic
> public backlashes against anyone who goes against the unspoken rules which
> so many so vigorously enforce. A few minutes ago, I learned of a 20 year
> odld who dated a 17 year old for months, then found out she had been lying
> about her age, and is now a registered sex offender. Should he have had his
> own read ID scanner? Perhaps.
> People are so terrified of being labelled perverts (with good reason),
> that they will not stand up for clear violations of decency. And as a
> party, we are so afraid of having the wrong spin or whatever it is that
> we're acting spineless. Even casual observation shows us that age of
> consent laws cannot be morally right, given that they are *different in
> different states*!
> If you don't like how I speak against government school and government
> funded school, fine. Use your own words. Or send me your own words, and
> I'll post it under my name. The military welfare complex? Speak on the
> topic however you like. Age of consent? Same thing.
> Could I write on any of these issues better? Of course. Life is about
> learning and improving. But censuring ourselves, lying about our positions
> and principles, and waiting for our literal enemies to be the only ones who
> present our views isn't the answer. Refusing to stand up for those who
> don't have the right optics for our current politicking is cowardice, not
> political cleverness.
> Respectfully,
> Arvin Vohra
> Vice Chair
> --
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