[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of Arvin Vohra

Alex Merced (Region 8 Alt) alex.merced at lp.org
Wed Apr 4 20:54:54 EDT 2018


To be clear, I vote yes

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>   What you've written is false. The joke I made, and admitted was in poor
>   taste, was about attacking a government agency with violence. The
>   "rant" to which you are referring indicates that the Second Amendment
>   is to protect us from government.
>   Perhaps you believe the Second Amendment is about hunting licenses.
>   However, I do not believe that I am the only person in the LP, or on
>   the LNC, who believes that the Second Amendment is there to protect us
>   from government.
>   If the LNC wants to make a statement that the second amendment is not
>   about protecting ourselves from the state, then you wouldn't need this
>   rigamarole. I'd resign from any organization that thought that.
>   However, I strongly doubt that the majority on the LNC, or anyone on
>   the LNC for that matter, believes that gun rights are not about
>   protecting ourselves from the state.
>   -Arvin
> 
>   On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>   <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> 
>        Nailed. It.
> 
>      On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:32 AM Justin O'Donnell
>      <[1][2]justin.odonnell at lp.org> wrote:
>           Arvin,
>           You expressed a dishonest apology. “I’m Sorry, but….” Is a
>           rationalization, not an apology. You deflected the issue at
>   hand
>        and
>           launched into accusations of your own that everyone who was
>   upset
>        with
>           your “joke” wasn’t Libertarian enough to have an opinion.
>           You said “I don’t support actually shooting up a school board”
>        but then
>           went on a rant justifying why someone should be ok with such a
>        course
>           of action. As I explained when I cast my vote, it wasn’t simply
>        your
>           comment that led me to vote in favor of the motion at hand, but
>        rather
>           your response to it, and lack of a sincere apology.
>           You have displayed a persistent inability to accept
>        accountability for
>           the wrong in what you’ve said, and refuse to acknowledge the
>        gravity of
>           your position and how personal posts make in public
>   environments
>           reflect on the organization simply due to the position you are
>        in. Face
>           the facts Arvin, as Vice Chair of this organization, you ARE a
>        public
>           figure, and everything you say, whether personal or political
>        reflects
>           upon this organization, and that is something that needs to be
>           inherently understood by everyone aiming to serve in any
>   capacity
>        of
>           leadership.
>           In the past I have consistently defended the morality and
>        principles
>           behind your statements, even if you lacked the tact to express
>        those
>           opinions in an amicable manner yourself. However, your
>        narcissistic and
>           audacious purism is dangerous and hindering the growth of this
>        party,
>           and any actual advancement towards Liberty in our Lifetimes.
>   How
>        you
>           say things is often much more important than what you say. It
>   is
>           perfectly possible to express radical opinions and beliefs in a
>        manner
>           that encourages independent thought rather than backlash. If
>   your
>           intent is to grow this party, and advance this movement, then I
>        suggest
>           you sincerely take a reprieve to learn a thing or two about
>        marketing
>           and communication, and how to reach people outside your own
>   echo
>           chamber.
>           Justin O’Donnell
>           LNC Region 8 (ME, NH, VT, MA, CT, NY, NJ)
>           Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
>           From: [2]Arvin Vohra
>           Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:10 PM
> 
>             To: [3][2][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>             Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension
>     of
>          Arvin
>             Vohra
>             Since some were not able to see the facebook live video, I
>          uploaded the
>             video to youtube. This is the original video, unaltered.
>             Given that we have at least one LNC member saying that I
>     never
>             apologized,
>             I would like to correct the record:
>             [3][4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voh28CtaZsU&feature=
>     youtu.be
>             On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Steve Scheetz
>          <[4][5]steve.scheetz at lp.org>
>             wrote:
>> I was informed that what I said could be misinterpreted as
>     not
>             voting.
>> 
>> I vote yes.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> 
>> Steve Scheetz
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>> From: Lnc-business [mailto:[5][6]lnc-business-
>   bounces at hq.lp.org]
>        On Behalf
>           Of
>> Alicia Mattson
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 2:16 AM
>> To: Libertarian National Committee list
>> Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of
>        Arvin
>           Vohra
>> 
>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>> 
>> 
>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by April 12, 2018 at
>           11:59:59pm
>> Pacific time.*
>> *Co-Sponsors:*  Harlos, Van Horn, Katz, Hayes, Goldstein,
>        Redpath,
>           Hewitt,
>> O'Donnell
>> 
>> *Motion:*
>> 
>> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds the non-initiation of
>        force as
>           its
>> cardinal principle and requires each of its members certify
>        that they
>> neither advocate or believe in violent means to achieve
>        political or
>           social
>> goals.
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the Libertarian National Committee suspends
>        Arvin
>           Vohra
>> from his position of Vice-Chair for sustained and repeated
>           unacceptable
>> conduct that brings the principles of the Libertarian Party
>        into
>           disrepute,
>> including making and defending a statement advocating lethal
>        violence
>> against state employees who are not directly threatening
>        imminent
>           physical
>> harm. Such action is in violation of our membership pledge.
>        These
>           actions
>> further endanger the survival of our movement and the
>   security
>        of all
>           of
>> our members without their consent.
>> 
>> -Alicia
>> 
>> 
>           --
>           Arvin Vohra
> 
>             [6][7]www.VoteVohra.com
>             [7][8]VoteVohra at gmail.com
>             (301) 320-3634
>          References
>             1. [8][9]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
>             2. mailto:[9][10]votevohra at gmail.com
>             3. mailto:[10][11]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>        --
>        --
>        In Liberty,
>        Caryn Ann Harlos
>        Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>        Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>     Washington)
>        - [11]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>        Communications Director, [12]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>        Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>        A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>        We defend your rights
>        And oppose the use of force
>        Taxation is theft
>     References
>        1. mailto:[12]justin.odonnell at lp.org
>        2. mailto:[13]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>        3. [14]https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>     v=Voh28CtaZsU&feature=youtu.be
>        4. mailto:[15]steve.scheetz at lp.org
>        5. mailto:[16]lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>        6. [17]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
>        7. mailto:[18]VoteVohra at gmail.com
>        8. [19]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
>        9. mailto:[20]votevohra at gmail.com
>       10. mailto:[21]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>       11. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>       12. [23]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 
>   --
>   Arvin Vohra
>   [24]www.VoteVohra.com
>   [25]VoteVohra at gmail.com
>   (301) 320-3634
> 
> References
> 
>   1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>   2. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
>   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voh28CtaZsU&feature=youtu.be
>   5. mailto:steve.scheetz at lp.org
>   6. mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>   7. http://www.VoteVohra.com/
>   8. mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
>   9. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
>  10. mailto:votevohra at gmail.com
>  11. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>  12. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
>  13. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>  14. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voh28CtaZsU&feature=youtu.be
>  15. mailto:steve.scheetz at lp.org
>  16. mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
>  17. http://www.VoteVohra.com/
>  18. mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
>  19. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
>  20. mailto:votevohra at gmail.com
>  21. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>  22. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>  23. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>  24. http://www.VoteVohra.com/
>  25. mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com




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