[Lnc-business] Motion to suspend Arvin Vohra

Sun Jan 14 13:54:28 EST 2018

On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:12 AM <steven.nekhaila at lp.org> wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Coming from a State which has been targeted due to individuals within
> and experienced considerable flack for years despite the great work we
> have accomplished, my advice to this body is to not give in to the lynch
> mobs demands, as I do not believe our policies even give us an avenue to
> act, but instead to encourage those who want to change party leadership
> to participate in the 2018 Libertarian National Convention and elect the
> leadership they would like to see in charge. The leadership is a
> reflection of the memberships will, if the membership wills to see a
> regime change that is their right, and the most effective way of
> carrying that out is to book accommodations to be at the convention of
> the greatest political party in the United States of America and be a
> part of crafting the future of US politics and culture. That should be
> our only response, it is also the most genuine and effective way for
> anyone who wants leadership change to achieve it. Turning our muzzles at
> each other is not the answer and quite frankly our bylaws do not allow
> it (to my knowledge), and even if it did I would not recommend it. We
> must stay united and move business forward until convention, encourage
> participation in the 2018 convention, and stick to our mission.
> Everything is else will end up in futility and that is not what this
> body wants.
>
> In Liberty,
>
> Steven Nekhaila
> Region 2 Rep Alternate
>
> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
> "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>
> On 2018-01-14 10:13 AM, Patrick McKnight wrote:
> > Thank you Elizabeth. I will co-sponsor this motion.
> >
> > Patrick McKnight
> > Region 8 Rep
> > Chair, NJLP
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2018 9:17 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <daniel.hayes at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> The reality is that people choose to quit.  Arvin doesn’t make
> >> them quit. Personal responsibility and all.  He sure is encouraging
> >> the hell out of them though.
> >>
> >> I sure wish those 50 people got this pissed off at Ohio State
> >> Government.  It probably would have save us $100,000
> >>
> >> Daniel Hayes
> >> LNC At Large Member
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Dustin Nanna <dustin.nanna at lp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> The possibility and reality that he HAS made people quit is why I
> >> support this motion. That and the 50 or so Ohio members who are
> >> completely disgusted.
> >>
> >> Dustin Nanna
> >> LNC Region 3 Alternate
> >>
> >> Vice Chair/Deputy Communications Director
> >> Libertarian Party of Ohio
> >>
> >> (740) 816-9805 [1]
> >>
> >> On Jan 14, 2018 9:05 AM, Dustin Nanna <dustin.nanna at lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Motion, not amendment. Typo
> >>
> >> Dustin Nanna
> >> LNC Region 3 Alternate
> >>
> >> Vice Chair/Deputy Communications Director
> >> Libertarian Party of Ohio
> >>
> >> (740) 816-9805 [1]
> >>
> >> On Jan 14, 2018 9:04 AM, Daniel Hayes <daniel.hayes at lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> In Louisiana, we have been through some legendary infighting.
> >> We’ve seen the wear and tear it puts on people and the
> >> organization.
> >>
> >> We had a SCC meeting yesterday and I brought the subject of
> >> Arvin’s latest statement up and asked if we wanted to create a
> >> response.  The “No” was palpable.  We discussed it further and
> >> everybody seemed to think that with the convention 5 1/2 months
> >> away, allowing the delegates to handle it by not voting for Arvin if
> >> he runs again was the way it should be handled.
> >>
> >> I suspect that after a 3 year period of grievances and attempts to
> >> remove people we maybe have a different perspective than others do.
> >> What we learned the hard way was the infighting/attempts at
> >> discipline was probably much more destructive than anything anybody
> >> actually did.
> >>
> >> I see a LOT of opportunistic and hypocritical behavior going on
> >> relative to Arvin.  I find those people whipping up the mob to be
> >> the bigger problem.  I think a lot of it likely violates the LP
> >> “Pledge”.  Attempting to use “force” for political gain.  I
> >> don’t mean people don’t have a right to be upset. I just find it
> >> curious that people that seem to think everyone should have a
> >> platform coming out against Arvin, or groups that advocate against
> >> age of consent laws doing the same.
> >>
> >> I am also disturbed but not surprised by the lynch mob calling Arvin
> >> a pedophile/pro-pedophile when he has very clearly stated he
> >> definitively opposes pedophilia. This more so applies to people that
> >> know the distinctions.
> >>
> >> All that said, I am bothered by what seems to be Arvin’s  desire
> >> to “purge” the party of the impure.  The possibility that he is
> >> trying to get people to quit is the bigger issue.
> >>
> >> Daniel Hayes
> >> LNC At Large Member
> >>
> >> Daniel Hayes
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jan 14, 2018, at 7:28 AM, David Demarest <david.demerest at lp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> The first stone has been cast.
> >>
> >> This motion is not about ideology. It is about the crass politics of
> >> avoiding scaring voters in order to get elected to top-down
> >> authoritarian positions and hiding the dictates of one's conscience
> >> 'between the sheets' instead courageously proclaiming one's
> >> convictions 'on the streets'.
> >>
> >> This motion will sort out those who have political, ideological and
> >> moral courage. We will soon see whether the LNC chooses to
> >> differentiate the Libertarian Party from the Republican and
> >> Democratic parties. The future of the LP could be in the balance.
> >>
> >> I will expressly NOT co-sponsor this motion. If it comes to a vote,
> >> I will proudly, publicly, and emphatically vote "NO"!
> >>
> >> Who among you is willing to cast the second stone?
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> ~David Pratt Demarest
> >>
> >> On Jan 14, 2018 4:52 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn
> >> <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I make a motion to suspend Arvin Vohra from his position as Vice
> >> Chair under Article 6, Section 7 of our Bylaws.
> >>
> >>
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> Three of the four state affiliate chairs in Region 3 are now backing
> >> this motion. I told Region 3 that I'd need at least 3/4 of the
> >> region in accord to make the motion to suspend Arvin.  That percent
> >> was reached last night.
> >>
> >> When I volunteered my time and energy to be a Regional Rep on the
> >> LNC, I didn't do it under the circumstances of, "only if
> >> convenient".
> >>
> >> I'm doing this because I care about giving a voice to the many LP
> >> members who are running for office, getting out the vote, and
> >> spending their hard-earned money working toward electing
> >> libertarians.
> >>
> >> These are the people that make up the Libertarian Party. It is their
> >> voice that I represent.
> >>
> >> So, it is with calm resolve that I make this motion.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Elizabeth Van Horn
> >> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> >> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> >> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> >> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >
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