[Lnc-business] P.S. - Re: Email Ballot 2018-03: Censure of Arvin Vohra
Alicia Mattson
alicia.mattson at lp.org
Wed Jan 31 04:35:50 EST 2018
Starchild,
The time stamp on your vote here:
http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/011851.html
is not based on the time on your computer. It is the time on the mail
server, which indicates it was more than 6 minutes past the voting deadline.
-Alicia
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Starchild <starchild at lp.org> wrote:
>
> P.S. – Please note the message was sent before the midnight Pacific Time
> voting deadline; the time stamp on my email software is incorrect.
>
> Love & Liberty,
>
> ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> RealReform at earthlink.net
> (415) 625-FREE
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2018, at 12:06 AM, Starchild wrote:
>
> > After some difficult deliberation, I vote no on this motion. No one
> > has yet been able to identify anything the vice-chair said that is
> > clearly un-libertarian, and while I continue to think that some of his
> > outreach efforts have shown poor judgement, and have obviously upset
> > many people, I cannot endorse the misguided set of priorities that
> > would be implicitly endorsed by censuring someone in a case like this
> > while failing to censure other Libertarian leaders such as William Weld
> > last year who have said clearly un-libertarian things from a much more
> > visible platform.
> >
> > Love & Liberty,
> > ((( starchild )))
> > At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> > [1]RealReform at earthlink.net
> > (415) 625-FREE
> >
> >
> > On Jan 31, 2018, at 12:01 AM, Starchild wrote:
> >
> > A statement describing a group of people as "fair game" sounds like
> > describing them as animals to be hunted, rather than individual human
> > beings with rights. I would reject that characterization.
> > "Pervert" is a loaded term commonly applied to demonize anyone whose
> > sexual habits are not considered acceptable. It has been applied to
> > LGBTQ people and others, and I don't think it is appropriate in what
> > should be a rational discussion about human development and the
> > capacity to consent. I haven't heard that Arvin ever used the term
> > (hopefully not).
> > In the case of Roy Moore, he has been credibly accused of sexual
> > assault (see
> > [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore_sexual_
> misconduct_allegation
> > s, in particular the case of Beverly Young Nelson). He is also an
> > authoritarian-leaning politician who wants to force his morality on
> > others at the point of government guns. I don't think we owe him an
> > apology.
> > Love & Liberty,
> > ((( starchild )))
> > At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> > [3]RealReform at earthlink.net
> > (415) 625-FREE
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >
> > And again if 14 year old girls are typically fair game- I ask again
> > -
> >
> > does anyone defending that statement here have the fortitude to
> > move a
> >
> > resolution to apologize to Roy Moore?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:10 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
> >
> > <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > I am using words the way people heard them and that was the
> > implication
> >
> > of what he said. He would rather even someone he thinks is a
> > pervert
> >
> > (they do exist - and they do troll after kids) as long as they
> > have a
> >
> > job to impregnate a 14 year old than another kid. Because welfare.
> >
> > Yes - when put in the stark cold reality of the implications of
> > what he
> >
> > said it IS awful. And that�s what our members heard. Many of
> them
> >
> > just as �pure� as Arvin.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:29 PM Starchild <[2]starchild at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Caryn Ann,
> >
> > Mary Ruwart's comment is clearly weighing in on our
> > debate
> >
> > on this motion, and her stance seems plain enough. It's hard to
> >
> > imagine she'd object to us seeing her remarks in a timely manner,
> > so
> >
> > accusing Arvin of "using people" by publishing them here seems
> >
> > uncalled for. As does the use of demonizing epithets like
> > "pervert".
> >
> > I frankly find that language offensive, and hope we can keep the
> >
> > discussion more civil.
> >
> > Love & Liberty,
> >
> > ((( starchild )))
> >
> > At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> >
> > [3]RealReform at earthlink.net
> >
> > (415) 625-FREE
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >
> > And of course that was not the point.
> >
> > I would love to speak with Dr. Ruwart on this, the author of
> >
> > "The
> >
> > Compassion of Libertarianism" about how we need less empathy and
> >
> > ya
> >
> > know, if a 14 year old gets pregnant, might as well be a pervert
> >
> > with a
> >
> > job rather than a broke kid. Because welfare.
> >
> > This is called using people.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Arvin Vohra
> >
> > <[1][4]votevohra at gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Forward from Dr. Mary Ruwart:
> >
> > �If such motions had circulated in the LNC in the early
> >
> > days of
> >
> > our
> >
> > Party, no LNC member would have spoken out against the War
> >
> > on
> >
> > Drugs,
> >
> > claimed that gays had rights, or pointed out that taxation
> >
> > was
> >
> > theft.
> >
> > All of these positions were considered inflammatory and
> >
> > offensive
> >
> > to
> >
> > the majority of people outside the LP for most of the
> >
> > 1980s,
> >
> > regardless
> >
> > of how carefully these positions were presented. Now, they
> >
> > are
> >
> > seriously embraced or considered across the political
> >
> > spectrum
> >
> > precisely because we spoke out. It�s impossible to affect
> >
> > serious
> >
> > change without offending some listeners. How can anyone
> >
> > believe
> >
> > that
> >
> > the LP supports free speech when its own members are
> >
> > punished for
> >
> > engaging in it?� ----Mary J. Ruwart
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 3:45 AM,
> >
> > <[1][2][5]david.demarest at lp.org>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > I change my vote to "YES" on the censure motion and ask
> >
> > others to
> >
> > vote 'YES' and request the cancellation of the electronic
> >
> > meeting
> >
> > to
> >
> > consider suspension.
> >
> > Arvin has audaciously and courageously challenged us to
> >
> > stop
> >
> > speaking in tongues about our Libertarian principles. He
> >
> > has
> >
> > correctly identified the fact that the opposition does a
> >
> > better
> >
> > job
> >
> > of describing our policy and positions than we do. We need
> >
> > to step
> >
> > up to the plate with equal courage and get us back on track
> >
> > toward
> >
> > our shared goal of freedom.
> >
> > It is time to end this game of Russian roulette that Ms.
> >
> > Mattson
> >
> > has
> >
> > aptly described as a circular firing squad, this
> >
> > political-correctness nightmare of timidity before voters
> >
> > and
> >
> > pandemic get-elected-itis at the expense of not only our
> >
> > principles
> >
> > but any semblance of rationality. We have done enough
> >
> > damage to
> >
> > the
> >
> > Libertarian cause. Let us cease this endless cycle of
> >
> > self-destruction before we plunge ourselves into a
> >
> > death-spiral of
> >
> > reworded censure motions.
> >
> > Good grief - enough already!
> >
> > ~David Pratt Demarest
> >
> > On 2018-01-29 22:11, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >
> > I hope my statement that the censure will fail is
> >
> > disproven. I am
> >
> > disappointed in the yes votes changing to no. This
> >
> > censure is
> >
> > woefully
> >
> > inadequate, but it is not as woefully inadequate as
> >
> > nothing at
> >
> > all.
> >
> > What we heard from Arvin is a defense of Trump tactics.
> >
> > That
> >
> > is
> >
> > not
> >
> > the LP I work for, recruit for, and donate for.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Patrick McKnight
> >
> > <[1][2][3][6]patrick.mcknight at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > I vote yes. However I feel censure is
> >
> > insufficient and
> >
> > look
> >
> > forward to
> >
> > the electronic meeting.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Patrick McKnight
> >
> > Region 8 Rep
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:21 PM, Tim Hagan
> >
> > <[1][2][3][4][7]tim.hagan at lp.org>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > I vote yes.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Tim Hagan
> >
> > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >
> > On 2018-01-20 19:03, Alicia Mattson wrote:
> >
> > We have an electronic mail ballot.
> >
> > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by
> >
> > January 30,
> >
> > 2018 at
> >
> > 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
> >
> > Co-Sponsors: Hayes, Hewitt, Demarest, Hagan
> >
> > Motion: to censure LNC Vice Chair Arvin Vohra
> >
> > for
> >
> > repeated
> >
> > public
> >
> > comments which have presented libertarian ideas
> >
> > in an
> >
> > inflammatory
> >
> > and
> >
> > sometimes offensive manner not conducive to
> >
> > Libertarian
> >
> > leaders and
> >
> > candidates for public office winning hearts and
> >
> > minds
> >
> > for
> >
> > those
> >
> > ideas.
> >
> > -Alicia
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> >
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> >
> > [3][4][5][6][9]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
> >
> > /mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:[5][6][7][10]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 2. mailto:[6][7][8][11]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 3. [7][8][9][12]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
> >
> > ilman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:[9][10][13]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 2. mailto:[10][11][14]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 3. mailto:[11][12][15]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 4. [12][13][16]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
> >
> > mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 5. mailto:[13][14][17]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 6. mailto:[14][15][18]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 7. [15][16][19]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
> >
> > mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > --
> >
> > Arvin Vohra
> >
> > [16][17][20]www.VoteVohra.com
> >
> > [17][18][21]VoteVohra at gmail.com
> >
> > [19](301) 320-3634
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:[20][22]david.demarest at lp.org
> >
> > 2. mailto:[21][23]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 3. mailto:[22][24]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 4. mailto:[23][25]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 5.
> >
> > [24][26]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 6. mailto:[25][27]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 7. mailto:[26][28]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 8.
> >
> > [27][29]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 9. mailto:[28][30]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 10. mailto:[29][31]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 11. mailto:[30][32]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 12.
> >
> > [31][33]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 13. mailto:[32][34]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 14. mailto:[33][35]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 15.
> >
> > [34][36]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 16. [35][37]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> >
> > 17. mailto:[36][38]VoteVohra at gmail.com
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:[39]votevohra at gmail.com
> >
> > 2. mailto:[40]david.demarest at lp.org
> >
> > 3. mailto:[41]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 4. mailto:[42]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 5. mailto:[43]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 6. [44]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
> >
> > 7. mailto:[45]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 8. mailto:[46]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 9. [47]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
> >
> > 10. mailto:[48]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 11. mailto:[49]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 12. mailto:[50]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 13. [51]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 14. mailto:[52]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 15. mailto:[53]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 16. [54]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 17. [55]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> >
> > 18. mailto:[56]VoteVohra at gmail.com
> >
> > 19. tel:(301) 320-3634
> >
> > 20. mailto:[57]david.demarest at lp.org
> >
> > 21. mailto:[58]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 22. mailto:[59]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 23. mailto:[60]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 24. [61]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 25. mailto:[62]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 26. mailto:[63]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 27. [64]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 28. mailto:[65]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 29. mailto:[66]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 30. mailto:[67]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 31. [68]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 32. mailto:[69]tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 33. mailto:[70]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 34. [71]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 35. [72]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> >
> > 36. mailto:[73]VoteVohra at gmail.com
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. [4]mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >
> > 2. [5]mailto:starchild at lp.org
> >
> > 3. [6]mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net
> >
> > 4. [7]mailto:votevohra at gmail.com
> >
> > 5. [8]mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
> >
> > 6. [9]mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 7. [10]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 8. [11]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 9. [12]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
> >
> > 10. [13]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 11. [14]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 12. [15]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
> >
> > 13. [16]mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 14. [17]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 15. [18]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 16. [19]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
> >
> > 17. [20]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 18. [21]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 19. [22]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
> >
> > 20. [23]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> >
> > 21. [24]mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
> >
> > 22. [25]mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
> >
> > 23. [26]mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 24. [27]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 25. [28]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 26. [29]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 27. [30]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 28. [31]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 29. [32]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 30. [33]mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 31. [34]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 32. [35]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 33. [36]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 34. [37]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 35. [38]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 36. [39]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 37. [40]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> >
> > 38. [41]mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
> >
> > 39. [42]mailto:votevohra at gmail.com
> >
> > 40. [43]mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
> >
> > 41. [44]mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 42. [45]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 43. [46]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 44. [47]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
> >
> > 45. [48]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 46. [49]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 47. [50]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
> >
> > 48. [51]mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 49. [52]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 50. [53]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 51. [54]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 52. [55]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 53. [56]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 54. [57]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 55. [58]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> >
> > 56. [59]mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
> >
> > 57. [60]mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
> >
> > 58. [61]mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 59. [62]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 60. [63]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 61. [64]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 62. [65]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 63. [66]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 64. [67]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 65. [68]mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> >
> > 66. [69]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 67. [70]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 68. [71]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 69. [72]mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> >
> > 70. [73]mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >
> > 71. [74]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> >
> > 72. [75]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> >
> > 73. [76]mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net
> > 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore_sexual_misconduct_
> allegations
> > 3. mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net
> > 4. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> > 5. mailto:starchild at lp.org
> > 6. mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net
> > 7. mailto:votevohra at gmail.com
> > 8. mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
> > 9. mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> > 10. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 11. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 12. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
> > 13. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 14. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 15. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
> > 16. mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> > 17. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 18. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 19. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
> > 20. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 21. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 22. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
> > 23. http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> > 24. mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
> > 25. mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
> > 26. mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> > 27. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 28. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 29. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 30. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 31. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 32. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 33. mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> > 34. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 35. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 36. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 37. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 38. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 39. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 40. http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> > 41. mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
> > 42. mailto:votevohra at gmail.com
> > 43. mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
> > 44. mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> > 45. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 46. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 47. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
> > 48. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 49. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 50. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
> > 51. mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> > 52. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 53. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 54. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 55. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 56. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 57. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 58. http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> > 59. mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
> > 60. mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
> > 61. mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> > 62. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 63. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 64. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 65. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 66. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 67. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 68. mailto:patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> > 69. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 70. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 71. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 72. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
> > 73. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 74. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> > 75. http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> > 76. mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
>
>
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Starchild,
The time stamp on your vote here:
[1]http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/011851.html
is not based on the time on your computer. It is the time on the mail
server, which indicates it was more than 6 minutes past the voting
deadline.
-Alicia
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Starchild <[2]starchild at lp.org>
wrote:
P.S. – Please note the message was sent before the midnight Pacific
Time voting deadline; the time stamp on my email software is
incorrect.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
[3]RealReform at earthlink.net
(415) 625-FREE
On Jan 31, 2018, at 12:06 AM, Starchild wrote:
> After some difficult deliberation, I vote no on this motion. No
one
> has yet been able to identify anything the vice-chair said that
is
> clearly un-libertarian, and while I continue to think that some
of his
> outreach efforts have shown poor judgement, and have obviously
upset
> many people, I cannot endorse the misguided set of priorities
that
> would be implicitly endorsed by censuring someone in a case like
this
> while failing to censure other Libertarian leaders such as
William Weld
> last year who have said clearly un-libertarian things from a
much more
> visible platform.
>
> Love & Liberty,
> ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> [1][4]RealReform at earthlink.net
> (415) 625-FREE
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2018, at 12:01 AM, Starchild wrote:
>
> A statement describing a group of people as "fair game" sounds
like
> describing them as animals to be hunted, rather than individual
human
> beings with rights. I would reject that characterization.
> "Pervert" is a loaded term commonly applied to demonize anyone
whose
> sexual habits are not considered acceptable. It has been applied
to
> LGBTQ people and others, and I don't think it is appropriate in
what
> should be a rational discussion about human development and the
> capacity to consent. I haven't heard that Arvin ever used the
term
> (hopefully not).
> In the case of Roy Moore, he has been credibly accused of sexual
> assault (see
> [2][5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore_sexual_
misconduct_allegation
> s, in particular the case of Beverly Young Nelson). He is also
an
> authoritarian-leaning politician who wants to force his morality
on
> others at the point of government guns. I don't think we owe him
an
> apology.
> Love & Liberty,
> ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> [3][6]RealReform at earthlink.net
> (415) 625-FREE
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> And again if 14 year old girls are typically fair game- I ask
again
> -
>
> does anyone defending that statement here have the fortitude
to
> move a
>
> resolution to apologize to Roy Moore?
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:10 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>
> <[1][7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I am using words the way people heard them and that was the
> implication
>
> of what he said. He would rather even someone he thinks is a
> pervert
>
> (they do exist - and they do troll after kids) as long as
they
> have a
>
> job to impregnate a 14 year old than another kid. Because
welfare.
>
> Yes - when put in the stark cold reality of the implications
of
> what he
>
> said it IS awful. And that�s what our members heard. Many
of them
>
> just as �pure� as Arvin.
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:29 PM Starchild
<[2][8]starchild at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Caryn Ann,
>
> Mary Ruwart's comment is clearly weighing in on our
> debate
>
> on this motion, and her stance seems plain enough. It's
hard to
>
> imagine she'd object to us seeing her remarks in a timely
manner,
> so
>
> accusing Arvin of "using people" by publishing them here
seems
>
> uncalled for. As does the use of demonizing epithets like
> "pervert".
>
> I frankly find that language offensive, and hope we can
keep the
>
> discussion more civil.
>
> Love & Liberty,
>
> ((( starchild )))
>
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>
> [3][9]RealReform at earthlink.net
>
> (415) 625-FREE
>
> On Jan 30, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> And of course that was not the point.
>
> I would love to speak with Dr. Ruwart on this, the author of
>
> "The
>
> Compassion of Libertarianism" about how we need less empathy
and
>
> ya
>
> know, if a 14 year old gets pregnant, might as well be a
pervert
>
> with a
>
> job rather than a broke kid. Because welfare.
>
> This is called using people.
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Arvin Vohra
>
> <[1][4][10]votevohra at gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
> Forward from Dr. Mary Ruwart:
>
> �If such motions had circulated in the LNC in the early
>
> days of
>
> our
>
> Party, no LNC member would have spoken out against the
War
>
> on
>
> Drugs,
>
> claimed that gays had rights, or pointed out that
taxation
>
> was
>
> theft.
>
> All of these positions were considered inflammatory and
>
> offensive
>
> to
>
> the majority of people outside the LP for most of the
>
> 1980s,
>
> regardless
>
> of how carefully these positions were presented. Now,
they
>
> are
>
> seriously embraced or considered across the political
>
> spectrum
>
> precisely because we spoke out. It�s impossible to
affect
>
> serious
>
> change without offending some listeners. How can anyone
>
> believe
>
> that
>
> the LP supports free speech when its own members are
>
> punished for
>
> engaging in it?� ----Mary J. Ruwart
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 3:45 AM,
>
> <[1][2][5][11]david.demarest at lp.org>
>
> wrote:
>
> I change my vote to "YES" on the censure motion and ask
>
> others to
>
> vote 'YES' and request the cancellation of the electronic
>
> meeting
>
> to
>
> consider suspension.
>
> Arvin has audaciously and courageously challenged us to
>
> stop
>
> speaking in tongues about our Libertarian principles. He
>
> has
>
> correctly identified the fact that the opposition does a
>
> better
>
> job
>
> of describing our policy and positions than we do. We
need
>
> to step
>
> up to the plate with equal courage and get us back on
track
>
> toward
>
> our shared goal of freedom.
>
> It is time to end this game of Russian roulette that Ms.
>
> Mattson
>
> has
>
> aptly described as a circular firing squad, this
>
> political-correctness nightmare of timidity before voters
>
> and
>
> pandemic get-elected-itis at the expense of not only our
>
> principles
>
> but any semblance of rationality. We have done enough
>
> damage to
>
> the
>
> Libertarian cause. Let us cease this endless cycle of
>
> self-destruction before we plunge ourselves into a
>
> death-spiral of
>
> reworded censure motions.
>
> Good grief - enough already!
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> On 2018-01-29 22:11, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> I hope my statement that the censure will fail is
>
> disproven. I am
>
> disappointed in the yes votes changing to no. This
>
> censure is
>
> woefully
>
> inadequate, but it is not as woefully inadequate as
>
> nothing at
>
> all.
>
> What we heard from Arvin is a defense of Trump
tactics.
>
> That
>
> is
>
> not
>
> the LP I work for, recruit for, and donate for.
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Patrick McKnight
>
> <[1][2][3][6][12]patrick.mcknight at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I vote yes. However I feel censure is
>
> insufficient and
>
> look
>
> forward to
>
> the electronic meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick McKnight
>
> Region 8 Rep
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:21 PM, Tim Hagan
>
> <[1][2][3][4][7][13]tim.hagan at lp.org>
>
> wrote:
>
> I vote yes.
>
> ---
>
> Tim Hagan
>
> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>
> On 2018-01-20 19:03, Alicia Mattson wrote:
>
> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>
> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by
>
> January 30,
>
> 2018 at
>
> 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>
> Co-Sponsors: Hayes, Hewitt, Demarest, Hagan
>
> Motion: to censure LNC Vice Chair Arvin Vohra
>
> for
>
> repeated
>
> public
>
> comments which have presented libertarian
ideas
>
> in an
>
> inflammatory
>
> and
>
> sometimes offensive manner not conducive to
>
> Libertarian
>
> leaders and
>
> candidates for public office winning hearts
and
>
> minds
>
> for
>
> those
>
> ideas.
>
> -Alicia
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Lnc-business mailing list
>
> [2][3][4][5][8][14]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> [3][4][5][6][9][15]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
>
> /mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[5][6][7][10][16]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 2. mailto:[6][7][8][11][17]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 3. [7][8][9][12][18]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
>
> ilman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[9][10][13][19]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
> 2. mailto:[10][11][14][20]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 3. mailto:[11][12][15][21]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 4. [12][13][16][22]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
>
> mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> 5. mailto:[13][14][17][23]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 6. mailto:[14][15][18][24]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 7. [15][16][19][25]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
>
> mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> --
>
> Arvin Vohra
>
> [16][17][20][26]www.VoteVohra.com
>
> [17][18][21][27]VoteVohra at gmail.com
>
> [19][28](301) 320-3634
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[20][22][29]david.demarest at lp.org
>
> 2. mailto:[21][23][30]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
> 3. mailto:[22][24][31]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 4. mailto:[23][25][32]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 5.
>
> [24][26][33]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-
business
>
> 6. mailto:[25][27][34]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 7. mailto:[26][28][35]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 8.
>
> [27][29][36]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-
business
>
> 9. mailto:[28][30][37]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
> 10. mailto:[29][31][38]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 11. mailto:[30][32][39]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 12.
>
> [31][33][40]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-
business
>
> 13. mailto:[32][34][41]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 14. mailto:[33][35][42]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 15.
>
> [34][36][43]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-
business
>
> 16. [35][37][44]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
>
> 17. mailto:[36][38][45]VoteVohra at gmail.com
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[39][46]votevohra at gmail.com
>
> 2. mailto:[40][47]david.demarest at lp.org
>
> 3. mailto:[41][48]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
> 4. mailto:[42][49]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 5. mailto:[43][50]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 6. [44][51]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
>
> 7. mailto:[45][52]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 8. mailto:[46][53]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 9. [47][54]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
>
> 10. mailto:[48][55]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
> 11. mailto:[49][56]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 12. mailto:[50][57]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 13. [51][58]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> 14. mailto:[52][59]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 15. mailto:[53][60]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 16. [54][61]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> 17. [55][62]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
>
> 18. mailto:[56][63]VoteVohra at gmail.com
>
> 19. tel:[64](301) 320-3634
>
> 20. mailto:[57][65]david.demarest at lp.org
>
> 21. mailto:[58][66]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
> 22. mailto:[59][67]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 23. mailto:[60][68]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 24. [61][69]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> 25. mailto:[62][70]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 26. mailto:[63][71]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 27. [64][72]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> 28. mailto:[65][73]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
> 29. mailto:[66][74]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 30. mailto:[67][75]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 31. [68][76]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> 32. mailto:[69][77]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 33. mailto:[70][78]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 34. [71][79]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> 35. [72][80]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
>
> 36. mailto:[73][81]VoteVohra at gmail.com
>
> References
>
> 1. [4]mailto:[82]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>
> 2. [5]mailto:[83]starchild at lp.org
>
> 3. [6]mailto:[84]RealReform at earthlink.net
>
> 4. [7]mailto:[85]votevohra at gmail.com
>
> 5. [8]mailto:[86]david.demarest at lp.org
>
> 6. [9]mailto:[87]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
> 7. [10]mailto:[88]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 8. [11]mailto:[89]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 9. [12][90]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
>
> 10. [13]mailto:[91]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 11. [14]mailto:[92]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 12. [15][93]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
>
> 13. [16]mailto:[94]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
> 14. [17]mailto:[95]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 15. [18]mailto:[96]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 16. [19][97]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
>
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>
> 18. [21]mailto:[99]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 19. [22][100]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
>
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>
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>
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>
> 23. [26]mailto:[104]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
>
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>
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>
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mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> 27. [30]mailto:[108]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 28. [31]mailto:[109]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
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mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
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>
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>
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>
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mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
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>
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>
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mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> 52. [55]mailto:[133]tim.hagan at lp.org
>
> 53. [56]mailto:[134]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
> 54. [57][135]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
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>
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>
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mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
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>
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>
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>
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mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
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>
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>
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mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
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>
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>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[155]RealReform at earthlink.net
> 2. [156]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Roy_Moore_sexual_misconduct_allegations
> 3. mailto:[157]RealReform at earthlink.net
> 4. mailto:[158]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 5. mailto:[159]starchild at lp.org
> 6. mailto:[160]RealReform at earthlink.net
> 7. mailto:[161]votevohra at gmail.com
> 8. mailto:[162]david.demarest at lp.org
> 9. mailto:[163]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> 10. mailto:[164]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 11. mailto:[165]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 12. [166]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
> 13. mailto:[167]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 14. mailto:[168]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 15. [169]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
> 16. mailto:[170]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> 17. mailto:[171]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 18. mailto:[172]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 19. [173]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
> 20. mailto:[174]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 21. mailto:[175]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 22. [176]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/
> 23. [177]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> 24. mailto:[178]VoteVohra at gmail.com
> 25. mailto:[179]david.demarest at lp.org
> 26. mailto:[180]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> 27. mailto:[181]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 28. mailto:[182]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 29. [183]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 30. mailto:[184]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 31. mailto:[185]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 32. [186]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 33. mailto:[187]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> 34. mailto:[188]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 35. mailto:[189]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 36. [190]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 37. mailto:[191]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 38. mailto:[192]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 39. [193]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 40. [194]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> 41. mailto:[195]VoteVohra at gmail.com
> 42. mailto:[196]votevohra at gmail.com
> 43. mailto:[197]david.demarest at lp.org
> 44. mailto:[198]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> 45. mailto:[199]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 46. mailto:[200]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 47. [201]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin
> 48. mailto:[202]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 49. mailto:[203]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 50. [204]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/ma
> 51. mailto:[205]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> 52. mailto:[206]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 53. mailto:[207]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 54. [208]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 55. mailto:[209]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 56. mailto:[210]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 57. [211]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 58. [212]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> 59. mailto:[213]VoteVohra at gmail.com
> 60. mailto:[214]david.demarest at lp.org
> 61. mailto:[215]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> 62. mailto:[216]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 63. mailto:[217]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 64. [218]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 65. mailto:[219]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 66. mailto:[220]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 67. [221]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 68. mailto:[222]patrick.mcknight at lp.org
> 69. mailto:[223]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 70. mailto:[224]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 71. [225]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 72. mailto:[226]tim.hagan at lp.org
> 73. mailto:[227]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 74. [228]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
> 75. [229]http://www.VoteVohra.com/
> 76. mailto:[230]VoteVohra at gmail.com
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185. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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220. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
221. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
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223. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
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