[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
Elizabeth Van Horn
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 01:08:04 EDT 2018
Agree, and will also be withdrawing from the email debate.
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Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-07-11 00:11, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> That is exactly what I have been doing, polling my region, discussing
> their points and even helping provide the arguments against made by
> others, and telling them that in this matter if they wanted me to
> change my vote I absolutely would.
> So far the response is unanimously in favor of this motion, with the
> only corollary being that we get it done then fix the broken system.
> Which several have volunteered to serve on committees to help with.
> Now unless the people in my region swamp me with requests to change
> my
> vote, I will be withdrawing myself from this pointless retreading of
> the same arguments. I have better things to do, like discuss actual
> fixes so the clusterf*** does not happen again.
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [1]217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
> Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2018 10:14 PM
> To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> Cc: Elizabeth Van Horn;
> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE
> ELECTION
> OF JC
> I'd like to remind new members to listen to your constituency. If
> you're
> a Region Rep, that means your regional members, state affiliate
> officers, etc. For At-Large, that means *all* the LP members are your
> constituency, so a broad spectrum feedback might give you information
> on
> what the LP body wishes.
>
> Also, I'll say that some of the feedback I'm getting from Region 3 says
> that they'd be fine with *no* Judicial Committee. This feedback came
> from a State Chair and a State VC, in Region 3, and officers of two
> other state affiliates in the region. The 'no Judicial Committee"
> option, means we just don't have a JC, and then in 2020, during a
> regular convention, the delegate body elects a new Judicial Committee.
>
> NO ONE has suggested that the LNC conduct a mail ballot of the former
> delegates at the convention, and I'd also be against that method, as
> that *would* be the LNC trying to orchestrate an outcome, as we already
> had a delegate vote regarding the JC. That would be the LNC
> disregarding the delegate body and votes that we all saw happen at
> convention. The way to respect the delegate body, is to either approve
> the top seven JC candidates, or have no JC until the 2020 convention
> can
> elect that committee. The former would be giving voice to the delegate
> body, and the latter would also be giving voice, while recognizing that
> the delegate voting procedure didn't finalize a committee.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> [3]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
>
> On [4]2018-07-10 20:21, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> And I remind everyone, particularly the new members, this is
>> ultimately
>> a parliamentary question not a popularity one. And I urge you to
>> avail
>> yourselves of the opportunity to speak with the convention
>> parliamentarian on this issue.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <[1[5]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for considering my points Richard. I am coming at this
>> also
>> from a keen awareness of how awry things like this can go. One
>> small
>> well-intentioned expediency on the part the LNC can turn into a
>> depth
>> charge that lasts for a decade.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Richard Longstreth via
>> Lnc-business
>> <[2[6]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> I am changing Region 1's vote to abstain.
>> I am continuing to think on this and hear back from more in my
>> region
>> before finalizing my decision. I am leaning toward voting no
>> at
>> this
>> point but will cast a final ballot on Saturday with
>> explanation
>> (our
>> deadline). Please continue discussion as all points are
>> relevant.
>> RTL
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 11:55 William Redpath via Lnc-business
>> <[1][3[7]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> I vote Yes. Bill Redpath
>> On [8]2018-07-09 13:47, [9]joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> > I vote yes. Given that the delegates were given the choice
>> at
>> > convention just a few short days ago, I believe we should
>> respect
>> that
>> > decision.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Joshua D. Smith
>> >
>> > On [10]2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> >> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
>> LNC-Business
>> >> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>> Co-Sponsors:
>> >> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Merced, Van Horn
>> Motion:
>> Move
>> >> that
>> >> the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the
>> election
>> of
>> the
>> >> following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year
>> term:
>> D.
>> Frank
>> >> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett,
>> Geoff
>> Neale,
>> >> Jim
>> >> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can keep track of the
>> Secretary's
>> >> manual tally of votes here:
>>
>> [1][2][4][11]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>> Committee
>> (Alaska,
>> >> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>> Wyoming,
>> >> Washington)
>> >> - [2][12]Caryn.Ann.[13] Harlos at LP.org
>> >> Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party of
>> Colorado
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >>
>> >> References
>> >>
>> >> 1. [3][5][14]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 2. mailto:[4[15]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 3. [5][6][16]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[7[17]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 2. [8][18]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>
>> 3. [9][19]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 4. mailto:[10[20]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 5. [11][21]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> - [12][22]Caryn.Ann.[23] Harlos at LP.org or[24] Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[25] LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> - [13][26]Caryn.Ann.[27] Harlos at LP.org or[28] Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[29] LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto[30]:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 2. mailto[31]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 3. mailto[32]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 4. [33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 5. [34]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 6. [35]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 7. mailto[36]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 8. [37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 9. [38]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 10. mailto[39]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 11. [40]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 12. mailto[41]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 13. mailto[42]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:217-412-5973
> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 4. tel:2018-07-10 20
> 5. mailto:]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 6. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 7. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 8. tel:2018-07-09 13
> 9. http://joshua.sm/
> 10. tel:2018-07-07 22
> 11. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 12. http://Caryn.An/
> 13. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> 14. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto:]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 16. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 17. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 18. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 19. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 20. mailto:]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 21. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 22. http://Caryn.An/
> 23. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> 24. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 25. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 26. http://Caryn.An/
> 27. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> 28. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 29. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 30. mailto::caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 31. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 32. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 33. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 34. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 35. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 36. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 37. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 38. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 39. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 40. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 41. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 42. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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