[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors re: JC

Tue Jul 24 13:01:01 EDT 2018

When Mr. Sarwark asks for agenda items for the September meeting, that 
would be an opportune time to discuss having that added. It looks like 
we are going to be addressing the committee to find better election 
procedures, and I agree that we should probably have an up or down vote 
for this as the JC in 2020 so they can be confirmed by the body, if this 
is the route we take.

Since that is an item that we may want to discuss in more depth, 
September would likely be the best time.

Respectfully,
Craig Bowden
Region 1 Alternate

On 2018-07-24 09:41, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> Understood.  I also would prefer to keep it simple.  Like I said,
>    keeping it separate is fine, but a plan for 2020 would be smart 
> imho.
>    All the usual crap plus POTUS and VP selection, I'd just as soon 
> have
>    it knocked out early so we have them if we need them.
>    No need for it to be an LNC decision, just as easily could be a 
> group
>    of individuals with a plan for a motion to suspend l, but it was a
>    concern I thought needed to be noted.
>    It has 0 affect on my decision on this motion.
>    Side note, I should probably quit using "imho" I think it is quite
>    plain I am anything but humble in my opinions. ;)
>    John Phillips
>    Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>    Cell [1]217-412-5973
> 
>    ------ Original message------
>    From: Caryn Ann Harlos
>    Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2018 10:16 AM
>    To: [2]john.phillips at lp.org;
>    Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business;
>    Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors re: JC
>    I don't want to complicate this motion.  There is nothing in here 
> that
>    prevents a 2020 fix and if no fix takes place, the LNC would 
> continue
>    to recognize until 2022. That is my purposeful intention here.
>    -Caryn Ann
>    On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:10 AM, [3]john.phillips at lp.org
>    <[4]john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
> 
>    Question on this.  Would it be in order to add some language about
>    moving JC elections or some sort of vote on it up in the 2020
>    convention schedule.
>    My concern being that while between now and then anything dealt with
>    will mostly affect us, but during convention several other issues 
> might
>    arise that would require a JC that is binding.
>    Though to my knowledge this may require a motion to suspend rules at
>    the convention instead, which is fine, just trying to get the 
> thought
>    process started to address that rather than end up with a FUBAR
>    situation in 2020 while trying to conduct important business.
>    John Phillips
>    Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>    Cell [5]217-412-5973
>    ------ Original message------
>    From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>    Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2018 8:36 AM
>    To: Libertarian National Committee list;
>    Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;
>    Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors re: JC
> 
>    Acknowledged, an email ballot will be started later today. -Caryn 
> Ann
>    On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
>    <[6] lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: > I will co-sponsor as well. > >
>    Richard > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 07:24 Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) 
> via
>    > Lnc-business <[1[7]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: > > Ill 
> co-sponsor
>    > Alex Merced > Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP 
> > >
>    On Jul 24, 2018, at 7:51 AM, [8]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business >
>    <[2[9]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: > > > > Cosponsor. Sounds like 
> a
>    solid, efficient compromise to me. > > John Phillips > > Libertarian
>    National Committee Region 6 Representative > > Cell 
> [1][10]217-412-5973
>    > > > > ------ Original message------ > > From: Caryn Ann Harlos via
>    Lnc-business > > Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2018 5:16 AM > > To: Libertarian
>    National Committee list; > > Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos; > >
>    Subject:[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors re: JC > > Move that 
> the
>    Libertarian National Committee agree to be bound by > the > > 
> decisions
>    of the top-seven vote-getters for the Judicial Committee > at the > 
> >
>    2018 Convention as if they were elected in the normal course of >
>    convention > > business and follow the procedures and rules set 
> forth
>    in our > Bylaws. It > > is acknowledged that this agreement is not
>    binding upon any member > or > > affiliate. > > > > -- > > *In
>    Liberty,* > > *Caryn Ann Harlos* > > Libertarian Party and 
> Libertarian
>    National Committee Secretary - > [2][11]Caryn.Ann.[3 > > ] > >[12]
>    Harlos at LP.org or[4][13] Secretary at LP.org. > > Chair, LP Historical
>    Preservation Committee -[5][14] LPedia at LP.org > > > > > > A haiku to
>    the Statement of Principles: > > *We defend your rights* > > *And
>    oppose the use of force* > > *Taxation is theft* > > > > Move that 
> the
>    Libertarian National Committee agree to be bound > by the > > 
> decisions
>    of the top-seven vote-getters for the Judicial > Committee at > > 
> the
>    2018 Convention as if they were elected in the normal course > of > 
> >
>    convention business and follow the procedures and rules set > forth 
> in
>    > > our Bylaws. It is acknowledged that this agreement is not > 
> binding
>    upon > > any member or affiliate. > > -- > > In Liberty, > > Caryn 
> Ann
>    Harlos > > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>    Secretary - > > [1][6][15]Caryn.Ann.[7][16] Harlos at LP.org or[8][17]
>    Secretary at LP.org. > > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>    -[9][18] LPedia at LP.org > > A haiku to the Statement of Principles: > 
> >
>    We defend your rights > > And oppose the use of force > > Taxation 
> is
>    theft > > > > References > > > > 1. mailto[10][19]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@
>    LP.org > > > > References > > > > 1. tel:[20]217-412-5973 > > 2.
>    [3][21]http://Caryn.An/ > > 3. mailto: > >[22] Harlos at LP.org > > 4.
>    mailto:[23] Secretary at LP.org. > > 5. mailto:[24] LPedia at LP.org > > 
> 6.
>    [4][25]http://Caryn.An/ > > 7. mailto:[26] Harlos at LP.org > > 8.
>    mailto:[27] Secretary at LP.org. > > 9. mailto:[28] LPedia at LP.org > > 
> 10.
>    mailto:[29]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org > > -- > > Richard Longstreth >
>    Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY) 
> >
>    Libertarian National Committee > [5[30]]richard.longstreth at lp.org >
>    [31]931.538.9300 > > References > > 1.
>    mailto[32]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org > 2.
>    mailto[33]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org > 3. [34]http://Caryn.An/ > 4.
>    [35]http://Caryn.An/ > 5. mailto[36]:richard.longstreth at lp.org
>    > -- -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Libertarian Party and
>    Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [37]Caryn.Ann.[38]
>    Harlos at LP.org or[39] Secretary at LP.org. Chair, LP Historical
>    Preservation Committee -[40] LPedia at LP.org A haiku to the Statement 
> of
>    Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force*
>    *Taxation is theft* Acknowledged, an email ballot will be started 
> later
>    today. -Caryn Ann On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Richard 
> Longstreth
>    via Lnc-business <[1[41]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: I will
>    co-sponsor as well. Richard On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 07:24 Alex Merced
>    (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business <[1][2[42]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>    wrote: Ill co-sponsor Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian
>    National Committee/LP > On Jul 24, 2018, at 7:51 AM,
>    [43]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
>    <[2][3[44]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: > > Cosponsor. Sounds like 
> a
>    solid, efficient compromise to me. > John Phillips > Libertarian
>    National Committee Region 6 Representative > Cell 
> [1][45]217-412-5973
>    > > ------ Original message------ > From: Caryn Ann Harlos via
>    Lnc-business > Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2018 5:16 AM > To: Libertarian
>    National Committee list; > Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos; >
>    Subject:[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors re: JC > Move that 
> the
>    Libertarian National Committee agree to be bound by the > decisions 
> of
>    the top-seven vote-getters for the Judicial Committee at the > 2018
>    Convention as if they were elected in the normal course of 
> convention >
>    business and follow the procedures and rules set forth in our 
> Bylaws.
>    It > is acknowledged that this agreement is not binding upon any 
> member
>    or > affiliate. > > -- > *In Liberty,* > *Caryn Ann Harlos* >
>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>    [2][46]Caryn.Ann.[3 > ] >[47] Harlos at LP.org or[4][48] 
> Secretary at LP.org.
>    > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[5][49] LPedia at LP.org 
> >
>    > > A haiku to the Statement of Principles: > *We defend your 
> rights* >
>    *And oppose the use of force* > *Taxation is theft* > > Move that 
> the
>    Libertarian National Committee agree to be bound by the > decisions 
> of
>    the top-seven vote-getters for the Judicial Committee at > the 2018
>    Convention as if they were elected in the normal course of > 
> convention
>    business and follow the procedures and rules set forth in > our 
> Bylaws.
>    It is acknowledged that this agreement is not binding upon > any 
> member
>    or affiliate. > -- > In Liberty, > Caryn Ann Harlos > Libertarian 
> Party
>    and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - >
>    [1][6][50]Caryn.Ann.[7][51] Harlos at LP.org or[8][52] 
> Secretary at LP.org. >
>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[9][53] LPedia at LP.org > 
> A
>    haiku to the Statement of Principles: > We defend your rights > And
>    oppose the use of force > Taxation is theft > > References > > 1.
>    mailto[10][54]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org > > References > > 1.
>    tel:[55]217-412-5973
>    > 2. [3][4][56]http://Caryn.An/ > 3. mailto: >[57] Harlos at LP.org > 
> 4.
>    mailto:[58] Secretary at LP.org. > 5. mailto:[59] LPedia at LP.org > 6.
>    [4][5][60]http://Caryn.An/ > 7. mailto:[61] Harlos at LP.org > 8.
>    mailto:[62] Secretary at LP.org. > 9. mailto:[63] LPedia at LP.org > 10.
>    mailto:[64]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org -- Richard Longstreth Region 1
>    Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY) 
> Libertarian
>    National Committee [5][6[65]]richard.longstreth at lp.org 
> [66]931.538.9300
>    References 1. mailto:[7[67]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org 2.
>    mailto:[8[68]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org 3. [9][69]http://Caryn.An/ 4.
>    [10][70]http://Caryn.An/ 5. mailto:[11[71]]richard.longstreth at lp.org 
> --
>    -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian
>    National Committee Secretary - [12][72]Caryn.Ann.[73] Harlos at LP.org
>    or[74] Secretary at LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>    -[75] LPedia at LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We 
> defend
>    your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 
> 1.
>    mailto[76]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org 2. 
> mailto[77]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    3. mailto[78]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org 4. [79]http://Caryn.An/ 5.
>    [80]http://Caryn.An/ 6. mailto[81]:richard.longstreth at lp.org 7.
>    mailto[82]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org 8. 
> mailto[83]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    9. [84]http://Caryn.An/ 10. [85]http://Caryn.An/ 11.
>    mailto[86]:richard.longstreth at lp.org 12.
>    mailto[87]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 
>    --
> 
>    --
>    In Liberty,
>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>    - [88]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or[89] Secretary at LP.org.
>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[90] LPedia at LP.org
>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>    We defend your rights
>    And oppose the use of force
>    Taxation is theft
> 
> References
> 
>    1. tel:217-412-5973
>    2. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
>    3. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
>    4. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
>    5. tel:217-412-5973
>    6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    7. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    8. http://john.ph/
>    9. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   10. tel:217-412-5973
>   11. http://Caryn.An/
>   12. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
>   13. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   14. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   15. http://Caryn.An/
>   16. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
>   17. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   18. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   19. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   20. tel:217-412-5973
>   21. http://Caryn.An/
>   22. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
>   23. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   24. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   25. http://Caryn.An/
>   26. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
>   27. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   28. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   29. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   30. mailto:]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   31. tel:931.538.9300
>   32. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   33. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   34. http://Caryn.An/
>   35. http://Caryn.An/
>   36. mailto::richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   37. http://Caryn.An/
>   38. mailto:Harlos at LP.org
>   39. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   40. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   41. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   42. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   43. http://john.ph/
>   44. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   45. tel:217-412-5973
>   46. http://Caryn.An/
>   47. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
>   48. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   49. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   50. http://Caryn.An/
>   51. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
>   52. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   53. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   54. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   55. tel:217-412-5973
>   56. http://Caryn.An/
>   57. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
>   58. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   59. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   60. http://Caryn.An/
>   61. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
>   62. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   63. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   64. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   65. mailto:]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   66. tel:931.538.9300
>   67. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   68. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   69. http://Caryn.An/
>   70. http://Caryn.An/
>   71. mailto:]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   72. http://Caryn.An/
>   73. mailto:+Harlos at LP.org
>   74. mailto:+Secretary at LP.org.
>   75. mailto:+LPedia at LP.org
>   76. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   77. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   78. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   79. http://Caryn.An/
>   80. http://Caryn.An/
>   81. mailto::richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   82. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   83. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   84. http://Caryn.An/
>   85. http://Caryn.An/
>   86. mailto::richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   87. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   88. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   89. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
>   90. mailto: LPedia at LP.org