[Lnc-business] Koerner proposal

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sat Dec 22 13:03:39 EST 2018


Absolutely right Alex.  What specifically was the counter???

On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Was a counter offer actually made? My impression is what people felt was
> discussed but a specific counter offer had not yet been presented to Robin
> due to proximity to the December meeting. I would like clarity on this,
> because what was voted on at the meeting was his off the cuff verbal
> proposal at the last meeting which is different than the written proposal
> he submitted after that meeting.
>
> If a counter hasn’t been made it should so this process regardless of
> result can play out as it should have.
>
> Alex Merced
> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
>
> > On Dec 22, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >   Unless there is a new proposal on the table, I don't see what there is
> >   to discuss. The LNC rejected the original proposal, and no one offered
> >   amendments. It seems there is little to no overall interest in
> >   furthering this.
> >   On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 9:40 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
> >   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org wrote:
> >
> >        Here's my perspective:
> >        A proposal was brought forth.
> >        LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes that each
> >     of us
> >        would be more likely to consider.
> >        Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests or
> >     thoughts.
> >        The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.
> >        As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back to us with
> >     a
> >        reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has already
> >     received.
> >        Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything more to
> >     discuss on
> >        this because the original was rejected. I would rather the LP
> >     hold a
> >        contest to come up with voluntarily submitted branding ideas
> >     rather
> >        than pursue this idea where the contract was unreasonable and no
> >        response is being made to our public comment and our input for a
> >        renegotiation. Either Koerner wants to pursue this or not, I will
> >     not
> >        be further pursuing it for him.
> >        If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end formally
> >        reaching out and negotiating the contract with him, despite his
> >        efforts, that is very irresponsible but the only person charged
> >     to do
> >        that from this body is Nick and I trust he has done what he has
> >     been
> >        charged with. I also trust that he hasn't gotten responses which
> >     is why
> >        nothing else has come before the body.
> >        I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals he brings
> >     forth,
> >        however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.
> >        Richard Longstreth
> >        Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
> >     WY)
> >        Libertarian National Committee
> >        [1][2]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        931.538.9300
> >        Sent from my Mobile Device
> >        On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business"
> >        <[2][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >             As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I was
> >     really
> >          unhappy
> >             with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily the
> >     result).
> >          Where
> >             are we at?  Is the Chair still engaging in negotiations?  I
> >     ask
> >          that
> >             this be added to the e-agenda for the January meeting.
> >             --
> >               In Liberty,
> >
> >     [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> >             Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> >     Secretary
> >             - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >             Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >             Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> >             at [2][3][4]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
> >     ====================================================================
> >          ===
> >             ==
> >             Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> >          Re-Legalize
> >             All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal
> >     All
> >          Gun
> >             Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money *
> >     Abolish
> >          The
> >             Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS
> >     and
> >          Repeal
> >             the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
> >          Free-market
> >             Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government
> >     Schools
> >          To
> >             The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> >             VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or
> >     [3][4][5]http://www.LP.org
> >
> >     ====================================================================
> >          ===
> >             ==
> >          References
> >             1. mailto:[5]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >             2. [6][6]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >             3. [7][7]http://www.lp.org/
> >     References
> >        1. mailto:[8]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        2. mailto:[9]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        3. [10]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >        4. [11]http://www.LP.org/
> >        5. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >        6. [13]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >        7. [14]http://www.lp.org/
> >
> > References
> >
> >   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   2. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   4. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >   5. http://www.LP.org/
> >   6. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >   7. http://www.lp.org/
> >   8. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   9. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >  10. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >  11. http://www.LP.org/
> >  12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >  13. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >  14. http://www.lp.org/
>
> --

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
=========================================================================
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   Absolutely right Alex.  What specifically was the counter???

   On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
   Lnc-business <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

     Was a counter offer actually made? My impression is what people felt
     was discussed but a specific counter offer had not yet been
     presented to Robin due to proximity to the December meeting. I would
     like clarity on this, because what was voted on at the meeting was
     his off the cuff verbal proposal at the last meeting which is
     different than the written proposal he submitted after that meeting.
     If a counter hasn’t been made it should so this process regardless
     of result can play out as it should have.
     Alex Merced
     Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
     > On Dec 22, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business
     <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >
     >   Unless there is a new proposal on the table, I don't see what
     there is
     >   to discuss. The LNC rejected the original proposal, and no one
     offered
     >   amendments. It seems there is little to no overall interest in
     >   furthering this.
     >   On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 9:40 AM Richard Longstreth via
     Lnc-business
     >   <[1][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org wrote:
     >
     >        Here's my perspective:
     >        A proposal was brought forth.
     >        LNC discussed and gave feedback as to several changes that
     each
     >     of us
     >        would be more likely to consider.
     >        Presumably a counter offer was made with those requests or
     >     thoughts.
     >        The LNC formally rejected the original proposal.
     >        As far as I see it, I'm waiting on Koerner to get back to
     us with
     >     a
     >        reasonable proposal stemming from the feedback he has
     already
     >     received.
     >        Until I see another proposal, I don't have anything more to
     >     discuss on
     >        this because the original was rejected. I would rather the
     LP
     >     hold a
     >        contest to come up with voluntarily submitted branding
     ideas
     >     rather
     >        than pursue this idea where the contract was unreasonable
     and no
     >        response is being made to our public comment and our input
     for a
     >        renegotiation. Either Koerner wants to pursue this or not,
     I will
     >     not
     >        be further pursuing it for him.
     >        If the lack of negotiation stems from nobody on our end
     formally
     >        reaching out and negotiating the contract with him, despite
     his
     >        efforts, that is very irresponsible but the only person
     charged
     >     to do
     >        that from this body is Nick and I trust he has done what he
     has
     >     been
     >        charged with. I also trust that he hasn't gotten responses
     which
     >     is why
     >        nothing else has come before the body.
     >        I am very open and willing to discuss other proposals he
     brings
     >     forth,
     >        however, at this time, there is nothing on the table.
     >        Richard Longstreth
     >        Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI,
     UT, WA,
     >     WY)
     >        Libertarian National Committee
     >        [1][2][4]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        931.538.9300
     >        Sent from my Mobile Device
     >        On Dec 21, 2018 23:18, "Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business"
     >        <[2][3][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >             As I think I made clear during our last meeting, I was
     >     really
     >          unhappy
     >             with how we handled this (praxis, not necessarily the
     >     result).
     >          Where
     >             are we at?  Is the Chair still engaging in
     negotiations?  I
     >     ask
     >          that
     >             this be added to the e-agenda for the January meeting.
     >             --
     >               In Liberty,
     >
     >     [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
     >             Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     >     Secretary
     >             - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
     >             Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
     LPedia at LP.org
     >             Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure
     page
     >             at [2][3][4][6]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >
     >
     ====================================================================
     >          ===
     >             ==
     >             Peaceful Commerce With All Nations *
     Non-interventionism *
     >          Re-Legalize
     >             All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom *
     Repeal
     >     All
     >          Gun
     >             Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money
     *
     >     Abolish
     >          The
     >             Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The
     IRS
     >     and
     >          Repeal
     >             the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation
     Infrastructure *
     >          Free-market
     >             Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer
     Government
     >     Schools
     >          To
     >             The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
     >             VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or
     >     [3][4][5][7]http://www.LP.org
     >
     >
     ====================================================================
     >          ===
     >             ==
     >          References
     >             1. mailto:[5]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >             2. [6][6][8]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >             3. [7][7][9]http://www.lp.org/
     >     References
     >        1. mailto:[8][10]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        2. mailto:[9][11]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        3. [10][12]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >        4. [11][13]http://www.LP.org/
     >        5. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >        6. [13][14]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >        7. [14][15]http://www.lp.org/
     >
     > References
     >
     >   1. mailto:[16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   2. mailto:[17]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   3. mailto:[18]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   4. [19]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >   5. [20]http://www.LP.org/
     >   6. [21]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >   7. [22]http://www.lp.org/
     >   8. mailto:[23]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   9. mailto:[24]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >  10. [25]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >  11. [26]http://www.LP.org/
     >  12. mailto:[27]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >  13. [28]http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
     >  14. [29]http://www.lp.org/

   --

     In Liberty,
   [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
   Secretary - [30]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
   at [31]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
   =======================================================================
   ==
   Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
   All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
   Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
   Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal
   the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market
   Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
   The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
   VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [32]http://www.LP.org
   =======================================================================
   ==

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   4. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
   5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   6. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
   7. http://www.LP.org/
   8. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
   9. http://www.lp.org/
  10. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
  11. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  12. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  13. http://www.LP.org/
  14. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  15. http://www.lp.org/
  16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  17. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
  18. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  19. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  20. http://www.LP.org/
  21. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  22. http://www.lp.org/
  23. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
  24. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  25. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  26. http://www.LP.org/
  27. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  28. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  29. http://www.lp.org/
  30. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  31. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
  32. http://www.lp.org/


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