[Lnc-business] Fwd: Koerner proposal
Jeff Lyons
jeff.lyons at lp.org
Fri Dec 28 00:10:22 EST 2018
Ms. Daugherty reports that she has complied with the directions from the
LNC in PHX and she has contacted Mr. Koerner on behalf of Chairman
Sarwark on several occasions to provide updates. The other members of
the LNC have had plenty of opportunity to speak to Mr. Koerner and those
who felt so inclined have done so. I think Ms. Daugherty is the one here
owed an apology. She has kept all of us very well informed of her every
communication, and has done so as effectively. Still, she has suffered
being ignored in person and on this thread while she repeatedly tried to
assert that she did in fact do the job that was asked of her. That is
what talking past someone looks like. I am seeing the exact same
discussions we were having in October, right after the meeting, still
happening now. Clearly, this topic has been beaten to death. Lets call
the question, any question, somebody find out what the actual question
is, to move this in a productive direction.
Personally, I think marketing is important and something that we need to
focus on improving. I was as impressed by the presentation as most
people were. However, I don't think this is a viable or salvageable
deal, and would urge everyone to vote "No" on the original proposal and
any subsequent offer, until our employees are secure in their wages and
our existing essential programs are properly funded. Mr. Koerner offers
little help with the implementation of this idea, and we simply do not
have the labor or funds to spare on new projects at this time, no matter
what the price tag is. I don't know how anyone present at that budget
meeting holding people's paychecks and livelihood in their hands as well
as the financial future of this organization could possibly question
that.
I would propose we finally move to a vote: whether to decline the
proposal without counter-offer, and inform Mr. Koerner that we regret we
are not able to find a mutually beneficial path forward based on our
understanding of his expectations. Mr. Koerner is aware of what the
situation is on our side of the table. He is well equipped to proceed to
a new ask or, much more likely- to decide to suspend negotiations until
matters change.
In Liberty,
Jeff Lyons
LNC 8 ALT
On 2018-12-27 22:49, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> It seems to me there was a colossal case of speaking past each other
> that we should not keep digging the hole deeper and a phone call
> with
> all interested parties set up to clear the air.
>
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:25 PM Lauren Daugherty via Lnc-business
> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> Robin and I talked multiple times between the Phoenix LNC meeting
> and
> the Alexandria LNC meeting.
> I asked him for a proposal, based on the parameters Nick had asked
> for;
> Robin sent it. I offered it to LNC members and sent it to those
> who
> asked to see it. I then facilitated the conversation among LNC
> members
> about the proposal.
> I summarized to Nick the feedback I'd received from LNC members. I
> asked
> Nick if he'd like to pursue a counter proposal. He asked me to ask
> the
> LNC members who had received the proposal if they had thoughts on
> what
> would be an appropriate counter offer. I did that, and relayed the
> results to Nick.
> Nick said that given that there was no general consensus from the
> LNC
> about a counter offer, and since we were so close to the LNC
> meeting,
> that he did not want to make a counter offer at that time.
> I told Robin that if there was a counter proposal or offer, I'd
> send
> it
> to him straight away. And I also told him very candidly, on
> multiple
> occasions, about the party's current financial situation. He said
> he
> understood.
> It should also be noted that all of this was going on during the
> height
> of election season.
> Lauren Daugherty
> Interim Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee
> On 12/27/2018 9:04 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Hi Resa, I apologize, it was my misunderstanding that you
> were
> there as
> > his representative based upon how Joshua asked if we wished
> to
> hear
> > from you.
> > As you know I too am very disappointed at how this was
> handled, and I
> > would hope that we as a body conduct ourselves better in the
> future. I
> > respect Robin greatly, and I hope this has not soured his
> desire to
> > work with the Party.
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: Resa Willis <[1][2]resa.willis at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Koerner proposal
> > To: <[2][3]secretary at lp.org>
> > I wanted to clarify something after reading the email chain
> regarding
> > this agenda item from the December meeting.
> > It indicates that I was there as Robin’s rep. I was not, as
> it
> was not
> > my place to represent him; that was strictly between Lauren
> and Robin.
> > I had no part in the proposal, the negotiations, or any
> other
> facet of
> > this besides promoting it on social media. The only official
> > correspondence was supposed to be between the parties
> aforementioned. I
> > attended the meeting simply as a member of the gallery.
> Robin
> did not
> > place me in a role of official proxy.
> > The very last contact Robin had with the LNC was during the
> Phoenix
> > meeting, and no other attempt was made to reach out to him
> before the
> > December meeting. I felt placed in a very awkward position
> in
> > Alexandria being asked how to handle the proposal, and felt
> awkwardly
> > obligated to speak to the lack of negotiations after such
> > misinformation was spread on the matter.
> > I’m very disappointed in how this was handled- negotiations
> never took
> > place, misinformation was spread, and gross assumptions were
> made.
> > Moreover, the crude manner in which it was handled at the
> meeting
> > itself shook my confidence in how leadership handles these
> issues. This
> > was unprofessional, and I expected better of our leaders. If
> any
> > further clarification is needed on this proposal going
> forward, my hope
> > is that the members of the LNC will reach out to Mr. Koerner
> directly.
> > Respectfully,
> > Resa Willis
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> >
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> > Secretary - [3]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
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> >
> > 1. mailto:[6]resa.willis at yahoo.com
> > 2. mailto:[7]secretary at lp.org
> > 3. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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> In Liberty,
> [uc?id=1DeRjq-L8dvRZabgEG94VkkUvjoHatcfP&export=download]
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary - [11]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page
> at [12]facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
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> ==
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> Re-Legalize
> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The
> Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and
> Repeal
> the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure *
> Free-market
> Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To
> The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation *
> VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or [13]http://www.LP.org
>
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>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:resa.willis at yahoo.com
> 3. mailto:secretary at lp.org
> 4. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 5. http://www.LP.org/
> 6. mailto:resa.willis at yahoo.com
> 7. mailto:secretary at lp.org
> 8. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 9. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 10. http://www.lp.org/
> 11. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 12. http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 13. http://www.lp.org/
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In Liberty,
Jeff Lyons
Region 8 Alternate
https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jly
Libertarian Assoc. of MA
State Chair
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