[Lnc-business] BALLOT 190203-1 Immigration Resolution

[Richard Longstreth]

I wrote a nice, long reply explaining procedure and then sent it from the
wrong address so it is list in space. In essence, Mr Goldstein put out the
most succinct and correct answer to the question and I wholeheartedly agree
that procedure was executed properly and notes available for review even
while the vote was ongoing.


Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300

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On Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 15:45 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org wrote:

> It has always been the case that an Alternate's vote only counts when
> the Member does not vote.  An express abstention is a vote therefore the
> Alternate's vote would not be counted.  I don't know why this is turning
> into a major issue.
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
> On 2019-02-11 17:39, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > If the Chair finds otherwise he can order the vote be taken again.
> >
> > If the desire of the body is to retake I would co-sponsor a motion to
> > rescind.
> >
> > We cannot simply declare it failed and call that fair.  It’s not fair
> > to
> > those who may have switched their vote or the chair who could have
> > voted.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:36 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
> > <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> PS: my recollection may be mistaken on the Vohra vote- will need to
> >> dig
> >> that out- but the example of an abstention after an alt vote is still
> >> valid
> >> even if just as a hypothetical.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:25 PM Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> John,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      I appreciate your civility and universal basic respect.  I
> >>> apologize
> >>> if this results in a defeat for your motion, which is not my pursuit,
> >>> and I
> >>> would love to contribute ideas I have and work together on this
> >>> matter in
> >>> the future.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      Thanks for all you do for the Liberty of Others!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Very Respectfully,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Lyons
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> LNC8A
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Get Outlook for Android
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:17 PM -0500, "John Phillips via
> >>> Lnc-business" <
> >>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Agreed JBH. A clarification on procedure would  helpful for future
> >>> reference
> >>> Perhaps since Mr Odonnell confirms that was his intent we could allow
> >>> it
> >>> this time and get informed of the correct way for next time.  In
> >>> spite of
> >>> it causing the resolution I supported to fail , I'll maintain my
> >>> stance of
> >>> not being a stickler for the rules in the interests of fairness,
> >>> working
> >>> together, and not being a hypocrite.
> >>>
> >>> John Phillips
> >>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >>> Cell 217-412-5973
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>
> >> *  In Liberty,*
> >>
> >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> >> Caryn.Ann.
> >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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> > All
> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> > Tax
> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> > Services
> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > Eliminate Regulation *
> >
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