[Lnc-business] Questions to the Chair - Convention Voting Process Committee and Membership Committee votes

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Fri Feb 22 04:01:38 EST 2019


I didn't reference it for equivalence of facts but understanding of
importance.  We disagree a bit there on the impact of not having NOTA, as I
argued at that time, no one would have shrugged and said "Oh, we left off
Johnson, big deal, you can write him in."

but the tldr; I get it, thus while I don't think there is any different
outcome here, its the principle of the thing.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 1:57 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> It does not matter for purposes of these elections, but since the 2016 NOTA
> subject was referenced, I do want to distinguish that situation.  NOTA was
> not nominated in that election.  Nominated candidates are pre-printed on
> the state tally sheets.  Our convention rules do not say that NOTA shall be
> automatically printed on the state tally sheets.  Our free-form-entry
> ballots easily allow write-ins, and our rules merely say that if someone
> does vote for NOTA, though it is an otherwise ineligible candidate, it is
> valid and will be handled in a particular way.  If NOTA is not pre-printed
> on the state tally sheet at convention, it in no way precludes a delegate
> from voting for NOTA because it can be written in.  I also did not
> pre-print the thousands of other write-in options on the tally sheets, yet
> delegates were able to write-in other candidates as they pleased.
>
> In the current vote in question, OpaVote did not allow me to write-in
> another candidate.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 12:18 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > The test of our using the OpaVote system for a real election is done,
> and I
> > think fantastically useful revealing some easy pitfalls to avoid in any
> > future runs.
> >
> > Before I release the results, I need direction from the chair.
> >
> > 1.  A name was inadvertently not included on the ballot.  Ms. Mattson
> voted
> > for that applicant and I do not know if anyone else would have, but for
> the
> > inadvertance, and I am not sure that is the key question as I remember
> how
> > upset I got at the 2016 convention when NOTA was left off of a ballot
> even
> > though I had no intention of voting NOTA in that race.
> >
> > 2. The ballot instructions were to pick up to nine.  That was not
> > explicitly spelled out in the enabling motion but was my interpretation
> of
> > it in light of my intent in making it and the well over a handful of
> > committees we had just populated in which we limited the choices.
> >
> > Depending on the chair's guidance on these two issues, it is relatively
> > trivial to correct.
> >
> >
> >    - I can re-enter all the current ballots but use Ms. Mattson's
> >    identified one including that excluded member.
> >    - We can ask any member if they wish to add additional choices to go
> >    beyond nine (and include that excluded member if they wish) and I
> > re-enter.
> >    - We can restart on a fresh ballot with lessons learned and ask
> everyone
> >    to voluntarily get their votes in early.
> >
> >
> > Please let me know.
> >
> > --
> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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-- 

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

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