[Lnc-business] Questions to the Chair - Convention Voting Process Committee and Membership Committee votes

[Alicia Mattson]

Johnson was a nominated candidate, so it is in no way reasonable to equate
a what-if-Johnson-were-left-off with treating NOTA as the write-in
candidate that it was.  An emotional allegation, not based on the actual
rules, did not equate to an actual infringement on voter rights.

So I cannot agree that this situation which does impact voter rights has
equal importance or shares principles with the situation you cited.  Apples
and oranges.

-Alicia


On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 1:01 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> I didn't reference it for equivalence of facts but understanding of
> importance.  We disagree a bit there on the impact of not having NOTA, as I
> argued at that time, no one would have shrugged and said "Oh, we left off
> Johnson, big deal, you can write him in."
>
> but the tldr; I get it, thus while I don't think there is any different
> outcome here, its the principle of the thing.
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 1:57 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> It does not matter for purposes of these elections, but since the 2016
>> NOTA
>> subject was referenced, I do want to distinguish that situation.  NOTA was
>> not nominated in that election.  Nominated candidates are pre-printed on
>> the state tally sheets.  Our convention rules do not say that NOTA shall
>> be
>> automatically printed on the state tally sheets.  Our free-form-entry
>> ballots easily allow write-ins, and our rules merely say that if someone
>> does vote for NOTA, though it is an otherwise ineligible candidate, it is
>> valid and will be handled in a particular way.  If NOTA is not pre-printed
>> on the state tally sheet at convention, it in no way precludes a delegate
>> from voting for NOTA because it can be written in.  I also did not
>> pre-print the thousands of other write-in options on the tally sheets, yet
>> delegates were able to write-in other candidates as they pleased.
>>
>> In the current vote in question, OpaVote did not allow me to write-in
>> another candidate.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 12:18 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > The test of our using the OpaVote system for a real election is done,
>> and I
>> > think fantastically useful revealing some easy pitfalls to avoid in any
>> > future runs.
>> >
>> > Before I release the results, I need direction from the chair.
>> >
>> > 1.  A name was inadvertently not included on the ballot.  Ms. Mattson
>> voted
>> > for that applicant and I do not know if anyone else would have, but for
>> the
>> > inadvertance, and I am not sure that is the key question as I remember
>> how
>> > upset I got at the 2016 convention when NOTA was left off of a ballot
>> even
>> > though I had no intention of voting NOTA in that race.
>> >
>> > 2. The ballot instructions were to pick up to nine.  That was not
>> > explicitly spelled out in the enabling motion but was my interpretation
>> of
>> > it in light of my intent in making it and the well over a handful of
>> > committees we had just populated in which we limited the choices.
>> >
>> > Depending on the chair's guidance on these two issues, it is relatively
>> > trivial to correct.
>> >
>> >
>> >    - I can re-enter all the current ballots but use Ms. Mattson's
>> >    identified one including that excluded member.
>> >    - We can ask any member if they wish to add additional choices to go
>> >    beyond nine (and include that excluded member if they wish) and I
>> > re-enter.
>> >    - We can restart on a fresh ballot with lessons learned and ask
>> everyone
>> >    to voluntarily get their votes in early.
>> >
>> >
>> > Please let me know.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > *  In Liberty,*
>> >
>> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> > Caryn.Ann.
>> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
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>
> *  In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
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