[Lnc-business] Regional meetings

[Richard Longstreth]

The only reason I did not appeal was because I already had it in the works.
Region 1 would have lost their you no whats if pre-work on the agreement
and discussion had not already been in progress. If the expectation is that
new regional reps are named by Saturday, I will rise and appeal that in a
second.

I also want to note that this has not been too much for me, however I can
certainly understand how it can be stressful if the process was not begun
early and I will stand with any calls for an appeal from any of my fellow
regionals, I however, will not be initiating that.

Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300

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On Wed, May 20, 2020, 06:50 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> *edit to correct
>
> I did not mean to imply that Richard Longstreth should appeal.  It is a
> judgment call.  I simply meant that if I were a current regional, I would
> appeal.  However, I can see both sides.
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:49 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I would still really suggest asking for a ruling.  Mr. Sarwark is known
> to
> > disagree with myself and Ms. Mattson on occasion.  I personally did not
> > agree with his ruling that the agreements were due this weekend.  this
> > weekend was a narrow carve out for one purpose - the presidential and
> > vice-presdential nominations and thus have nothing to do with the LNC
> > elections of any kind.  However, no regional challenged his ruling, and I
> > do enough challenges.  I figured if you guys are not objecting, who am I
> to
> > object.   If I were region 1 I would be appealing that ruling.
> >
> > *In Liberty,*
> >
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:11 AM Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> So, if the region is formed by the 23rd (this Saturday), can the region
> >> rep
> >> be selected at the in-person in July?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 20, 2020, 3:02 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > The good news is that we don't have to guess.  Bylaws and Convention
> >> Rules
> >> > answer all of these questions.
> >> >
> >> > Bylaw 7.2.c - Regions must be formed by the 2nd day of the convention,
> >> but
> >> > the paperwork giving notice of the region formation must be given to
> the
> >> > Secretary prior to the close of the convention.  If the convention
> >> finishes
> >> > out in Orlando, then that's the close of the convention.
> >> >
> >> > Bylaw 7.3 - "The National Committee shall take office immediately upon
> >> the
> >> > close of the Regular Convention at which they are selected, and serve
> >> until
> >> > the final adjournment of the next Regular Convention."
> >> >
> >> > LNC terms begin and end at the final adjournment of conventions.
> >> >
> >> > The reason the CA operates differently is that they have 10% by
> >> themselves,
> >> > are entitled to a region rep by themselves, and always make regional
> >> > agreements that give them control of who their rep is, and regional
> >> > agreements which establish the rules for replacing the rep as being
> the
> >> CA
> >> > affiliate bylaws. Then the CA bylaws say that the CA convention elects
> >> the
> >> > region rep and that newly elected person immediately replaces the
> >> > previously elected one, essentially removing a rep when they please
> and
> >> > appointing a replacement to finish out the remainder of what the
> >> national
> >> > bylaws consider to be a normal term.  See Bylaw 7.8 which allows the
> >> region
> >> > control over removing/replacing region reps when and how they please
> so
> >> > long as they spell out the procedure.
> >> >
> >> > -Alicia
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 7:32 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I think this is a very gray area.  you may want to get a ruling from
> >> the
> >> > > chair.  I would put everything you want in the agreement - and I
> would
> >> > not
> >> > > assume that the reps take office - as Sam said - in Orlando.  I
> >> actually
> >> > > think the opposite is true unless that is set out in the agreement.
> >> > >
> >> > > You cannot be wrong by specifying each thing in the agreement.
> >> > >
> >> > > *In Liberty,*
> >> > >
> >> > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> >> > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >> anyone
> >> > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >> faux
> >> > > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 6:43 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
> >> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Heh, you can get in trouble for even thinking these days!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ---
> >> > > > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> >> > > > Libertarian National Committee
> >> > > > 317-850-0726 Cell
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 2020-05-19 20:40, john.phillips at lp.org wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Kinda what I was thinking, but I get myself in trouble assuming,
> >> so
> >> > was
> >> > > > hoping for an official answer
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > John Phillips
> >> > > > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > > > > Cell 217-412-5973
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On May 19, 2020 7:30 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The new regional reps don't take office until the post
> convention
> >> LNC
> >> > > > meeting so I would assume you can have your election at Orlando.
> >> Also
> >> > > > there is a chance the JC might change to regional representation
> if
> >> > that
> >> > > > Bylaw passes and that person would also have to be elected.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ---
> >> > > > > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> >> > > > > Libertarian National Committee
> >> > > > > 317-850-0726 Cell
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On 2020-05-19 20:14, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> > > > > Question for clarity.
> >> > > > > Regional agreements need to be done on/by saturday.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Do regional elections as well? Or -presuming we don't change
> >> > anything -
> >> > > > are those not due until we do other lnc elections?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > John Phillips
> >> > > > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > > > > Cell 217-412-5973
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
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